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  1. #1041
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    Signed by a friend, plus -MND doesn't hurt DRG wses last I checked.

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    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Was hoping for MAB, but can't complain since it's for COR:

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    I got Healing Magic +1 on Amemet Game mocks me whenever I augment on DRK.

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    My am+1 got agi -1 mocking my cor.

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    Most random thing ever.
    30k mnd earring ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drac View Post
    I got Healing Magic +1 on Amemet Game mocks me whenever I augment on DRK.
    Ironically I got the exact same augment on my Amemet+1

  7. #1047
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_OG_Nelta View Post
    Most random thing ever.
    30k mnd earring ftw
    Time to break out the Holy Bolts.

  8. #1048
    the whitest knight u' know
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    I'm having a hard time NPCing the following crap because of my tendency to randomly want to exp mid-range bullshit... but I have no use for it as of now. :[

    Steel Finger Gauntlets
    [Accuracy+2] [Haste+1]

    Steel Finger Gauntlets
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    Carapace Harness
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  9. #1049
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  10. #1050
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    Signed by a friend, plus -MND doesn't hurt DRG wses last I checked.
    It's not like you'll benefit greatly from the DEX anyways. Remember that before dDEX=40, you're only gaining 1% Critical hit for every 10DEX. It doesn't even scale as the DEX progresses (i.e. 2DEX=/=0.2% Critical hit). You can argue that you'll get 1.5ACC out of the ring, but there are two potential problems with that. If you're fighting Colibri, and it seems like you're aiming for a critical hit build, you'll need to use Thunder Ring since you're Elvaan. If you're fighting anything else, it's likely that you'll need as much DEX (Thunder Ring again) or simply revert to a STR build. In both cases, Pizza should cover the ACC. Overall, I think the 1STR will help you more even if it only provides a 25% chance at fSTR+1 simply by virtue of how obsolete the 2DEX is.

  11. #1051
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudox View Post
    Wrong thread?

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    What the fuck.

  12. #1052
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  13. #1053
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    Aptus Earring with MAB+1 Conserve MP+2 String Skill+1 (from Chocobo Key, ASA).

    Sapphire Ring (MND+4) augmented with CHR+3 (VoS turtle). Keeping this for my BST for Charm and Reward (and SS if /WHM), allows me to carry one less ring so = Inventory +1.

    Alloy Torque (from MKD Coral Key) with Elemental +4, Enfeebling +2, Wind Skill +3. Redundant. I hate to toss Wind Skill gear but can't see any reason to keep this at all.


    Aptus and Alloy were both obtained on BRD and both have instrument skill. Very weird, quite a coincidence.

  14. #1054
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    It's not like you'll benefit greatly from the DEX anyways. Remember that before dDEX=40, you're only gaining 1% Critical hit for every 10DEX. It doesn't even scale as the DEX progresses (i.e. 2DEX=/=0.2% Critical hit). You can argue that you'll get 1.5ACC out of the ring, but there are two potential problems with that. If you're fighting Colibri, and it seems like you're aiming for a critical hit build, you'll need to use Thunder Ring since you're Elvaan. If you're fighting anything else, it's likely that you'll need as much DEX (Thunder Ring again) or simply revert to a STR build. In both cases, Pizza should cover the ACC. Overall, I think the 1STR will help you more even if it only provides a 25% chance at fSTR+1 simply by virtue of how obsolete the 2DEX is.
    I've seen quite a few posters saying "pizza will cover you" concerning drg.
    Can cap acc easy enough with meat in Dyna City+Tav (probably ice too, but i haven't parsed an ice on drg in a long time), Limbus, Einherjar, Merits. For zerg fights you'll be capped anyway from feint+mads.

    Only thing I can remember needing pizza was sky gods (read: byakko).

    So apart fromt he above, what else would you use drg for? If you're not capped on the above events then you should definitely be 85-90%+, at which point rabbit pie or red curry will be better anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I've seen quite a few posters saying "pizza will cover you" concerning drg.
    Can cap acc easy enough with meat in Dyna City+Tav (probably ice too, but i haven't parsed an ice on drg in a long time), Limbus, Einherjar, Merits. For zerg fights you'll be capped anyway from feint+mads.

    Only thing I can remember needing pizza was sky gods (read: byakko).

    So apart fromt he above, what else would you use drg for? If you're not capped on the above events then you should definitely be 85-90%+, at which point rabbit pie or red curry will be better anyway).
    Odin requires 450 ACC, so there is one exception. In addition, using Pizza allows you to include Blitz ring and more attack pieces whereas Yellow Curry buns only grant 25 more attack than Pizza. The ring only grants 1.5 ACC. To make an argument for it on the basis of accuracy, you need to justify 1.5 ACC being the difference between capped and uncapped accuracy; otherwise, Flame Ring will out perform it. To make this easier to conceptualize, I'll pose the situation in this manner:

    Pizza
    - Ring will help when uncapped, but in many cases, you'll need a lot more ACC if you're having ACC problems after using Pizza
    - Blitz will probably be better for TP if you're short 1.5 or less ACC
    - You'll be at capped ACC and Flame ring will be better regardless

    Meat
    - Mob will be so easy to hit, you can just use Blitz ring
    - You need a bit more accuracy, so an ACC ring is better
    - Use Pizza

    Edit: I forgot you mentioned Rabbit pie/Red curry. That changes the attack difference to 50/100. Have fun spending 130-200k on food.

  16. #1056
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I've seen quite a few posters saying "pizza will cover you" concerning drg.
    Can cap acc easy enough with meat in Dyna City+Tav (probably ice too, but i haven't parsed an ice on drg in a long time), Limbus, Einherjar, Merits. For zerg fights you'll be capped anyway from feint+mads.

    Only thing I can remember needing pizza was sky gods (read: byakko).

    So apart fromt he above, what else would you use drg for? If you're not capped on the above events then you should definitely be 85-90%+, at which point rabbit pie or red curry will be better anyway).
    If you're capping ACC on DRG in Dyn-Tav with meat and no relic I think there needs to be some poidh.

    Best TP options for DRG leave you severely under ACC cap, traits or otherwise.

    Edit:
    OAT/whatever/blank/Btath
    DEX+2 haste5/love/assault/brutal
    wyrm+1/dusk+1/rajas/blitz
    cuchu/velo/homam/homam
    +Hasso +traits:

    393.2 @65 base DEX (hume)

    Yeah, you're not capping shit.

    ib4 red curry is a justification to sit at 75% ACC in Dynamis-Tav.

  17. #1057
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Odin requires 450 ACC, so there is one exception. In addition, using Pizza allows you to include Blitz ring and more attack pieces whereas Yellow Curry buns only grant 25 more attack than Pizza. The ring only grants 1.5 ACC. To make an argument for it on the basis of accuracy, you need to justify 1.5 ACC being the difference between capped and uncapped accuracy; otherwise, Flame Ring will out perform it. To make this easier to conceptualize, I'll pose the situation in this manner:

    Pizza
    - Ring will help when uncapped, but in many cases, you'll need a lot more ACC if you're having ACC problems after using Pizza
    - Blitz will probably be better for TP if you're short 1.5 or less ACC
    - You'll be at capped ACC and Flame ring will be better regardless

    Meat
    - Mob will be so easy to hit, you can just use Blitz ring
    - You need a bit more accuracy, so an ACC ring is better
    - Use Pizza

    Edit: I forgot you mentioned Rabbit pie/Red curry. That changes the attack difference to 50/100. Have fun spending 130-200k on food.
    Did you just try to defeat my argument by saying "food is expensive"...?
    Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    If you're capping ACC on DRG in Dyn-Tav with meat and no relic I think there needs to be some poidh.
    Code:
    Damage Summary
    Player               Total Dmg   Damage %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   Abil. Dmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg
    Alkimi                     487     0.15 %           0           0           0           0         487          0
    Aversine                 27456     8.42 %       12726           0        2330       12372           0         28
    Confuse                  55625    17.06 %       28645           0           0       26554           0        426
    Dinen                     6026     1.85 %           0           0           0           0        6026          0
    Fabien                    2838     0.87 %           0           0           0           0        2838          0
    Haroun                      10     0.00 %           0           0           0           0          10          0
    Kurriko                  57542    17.65 %       22383           0        4345       30678           0        136
    Leolai                   16193     4.97 %        6718           0           0        9447           0         28
    Lior                     58961    18.09 %       28424           0           0       28848           0       1689
    Mattchoo                   324     0.10 %           0           0         324           0           0          0
    Moody                    15315     4.70 %           0           0           0           0       15315          0
    Rutek                     6136     1.88 %           0           0           0           0        6136          0
    Sizah                        3     0.00 %           0           0           0           0           0          3
    Sutebe                   62996    19.33 %       18250           0           0       44746           0          0
    Takida                    4476     1.37 %           0           0           0           0        4476          0
    Teplin                       8     0.00 %           0           0           0           0           0          8
    Zatoichina                 514     0.16 %         469          45           0           0           0          0
    Lady                      2243     0.69 %        1588           0         655           0           0          0
    Wuffi                     6519     2.00 %        2285           0        4234           0           0          0
    SC: Fusion                 500     0.15 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
    SC: Light                 1494     0.46 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
    SC: Reverberation          298     0.09 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
    Total                   325964   100.00 %      121488          45       11888      152645       35288       2318
    
    
    Melee Damage
    Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
    Aversine              12726   46.35 %     202/14   93.52 %     0/142    57.31     15     0/245  133.93    7.43 %
    Confuse               28645   51.50 %     275/16   94.50 %     0/213    95.65     25     0/252  189.32    9.09 %
    Kurriko               22383   38.90 %     251/12   95.44 %     0/146    80.98     25   101/267  163.24    9.96 %
    Leolai                 6718   41.49 %     114/29   79.72 %     0/100    49.19     16     0/163  118.56   14.04 %
    Lior                  28424   48.21 %     280/25   91.80 %     0/194    91.28     26   127/253  201.46    9.29 %
    Sutebe                18250   28.97 %     255/29   89.79 %     0/133    64.20     26    64/183  136.46   10.20 %
    Zatoichina              469   91.25 %      24/29   45.28 %      0/23     8.45      4    28/125   75.00   16.67 %
    Lady                   1588   70.80 %      73/34   68.22 %      0/39    19.49      6     34/80   47.00    8.22 %
    Wuffi                  2285   35.05 %     112/55   67.07 %      0/39    19.45      6     24/50   37.17    5.36 %
    
    
    Ranged Damage
    Player            Range Dmg   Range %   Hit/Miss   R.Acc %  R.Low/Hi    R.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
    Zatoichina               45    8.75 %       3/38    7.32 %     11/17    15.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
    ?
    Edit: In fairness, this parse was befor the magians was intorduced, and so befor any 507 Lance (requiring 19STP for gimp 6hit or 22 for true) was worth using, also omega is a bitch and i am prety gimp so askar over homam legs, amem+1 over cuch, sniper over blitz, swift over velo and tiphia over btath. Also no vork so was thala and aurum over wyrm+1 (equally as stingy. fuck you, i dont want a bard justacorps+1).

  18. #1058
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    ib4 red curry is a justification to sit at 75% ACC in Dynamis-Tav.
    This, however, has reminded me of something funny:
    http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...430_012157.png

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    also for anyone placing bets, first two won (no nhands or haiadate ofc) 3rd wiped

  20. #1060
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    Your parse is about as non-descript as it comes.

    If you're allowed to come on a job that is so insufficiently geared to a zone that maxes out at 18 people you're expecting us all to go a LONG way in terms of mental leaps to assume that your mages cast blindna and dispel instantly for the entire duration of the run every time you were heca wave'd / pugils used EVA boost TP moves.

    Not to mention that every Fomor / Kindred THF will have easily 20-30 more EVA than a greater colibri (which in the gear you just listed you still don't cap on without hasso, btw)

    I call throngs upon throngs of bullshit.

    Edit: The highest amount of melee swings in the parse is ~100 over what I do in a 22-25 minute Einherjar run with 13-14 total DDs. You have 6 including you on the melee damage list.

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