Ron Paul Owns CPAC 2010, FOX is not pleased

[Rhinox]

Tell me your point, numskull. Like I said, I'm not going to watch Chris "Tingle in my leg" Matthews so I can get your point.

already made my point. watch the videos frank gaffney used all the recycled talking points you are using and they all got shot down.

[ZarakiKujata]

look at the videos I posted pretty much discredited all of that garbage.

I already know everything he said is bullshit I just want to lol when he ignores the request and turns around and asks Elvis to cite sources on one of his APA footnoted wall of text.

[archibaldcrane]

First time I've ever seen a rational statement by someone against the war in Iraq.

Either you're whooshing me, or you missed the first...probably 7 times I've posted that rant on BG over the past 4 years or so.

[Leif]

already made my point. watch the videos frank gaffney used all the recycled talking points you are using and they all got shot down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPleML4BaTM

I got through the first few seconds. Then, Matthew played the clip where Cheney says "I disagree with that" and then the clip stops.

I laughed, knowing that Cheney would not just deny something without an explanation, so like all conservatives do, I had to go to the internet for the truth.

"I disagree with that," Cheney said Monday. "As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren't any stockpiles."

"What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock."

[ZarakiKujata]

I got through the first few seconds. Then, Matthew played the clip where Cheney says "I disagree with that" and then the clip stops.

I laughed, knowing that Cheney would not just deny something without an explanation, so like all conservatives do, I had to go to the internet for the truth.

>Implying Cheney has ever been truthful/correct about his assessments about Iraq

[Rhinox]

The rest of it is irrelevant lol.

are you reading what you're quoting? The basis of going to war was because he was sure he had WMD's. now he said we would have gone anyway because of capability? Wtf

but hey thats ok. Hell its even ok if the president jokes about it and make light of the fact that he sent thousands of Americans to their deaths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VD1gOhpRSU

[Leif]

The rest of it is irrelevant lol.

are you reading what you're quoting? The basis of going to war was because he was sure he had WMD's. now he said we would have gone anyway because of capability? Wtf

but hey thats ok. Hell its even ok if the president jokes about it and make light of the fact that he sent thousands of Americans to their deaths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VD1gOhpRSU

You're insane. He wasn't like "I sent people to die for nothing! Hee hee hee!".

Back to the Matthews video:

Cheney says: "He has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons and we believe he has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons."

Matthews lies about what Cheney said: "He has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons. He has nuclear weapons. That's the charge made by the president. We're facing a country that possesses nuclear weapons."

Wait, Cheney never said any of those three things.

As the second man started to say before Matthews started screaming about "mortal threats" refusing to let the man answer, it was Saddam's prerogative to show that he didn't have any WMDs.

Then, for the rest of the video, Matthews screams about dead children, still refusing the let the man answer. Towards the end, when he starts to get to indisputable facts like the fact that Saddam had a nuclear weapons program in the fast, Matthews quickly starts screaming again.

[Rhinox]

You're insane. He wasn't like "I sent people to die for nothing! Hee hee hee!".

Back to the Matthews video:

he made light of the fact that his basis for going to war was retarded and wrong.


maybe this will make it sink in a bit more.

THE WHOLE BASIS OF GOING TO WAR WAS BECAUSE HE HAD WMD


Good Intentions aren't good enough.

[ZarakiKujata]

they see me loling

[Leif]

THE WHOLE BASIS OF GOING TO WAR WAS BECAUSE HE HAD WMD

The whole basis of going to war was because he was a threat to the United States.

The liberal commentator on the video says that Cheney and Condy should have gotten their intelligence from the Washington Post.



If you want to make a case against Iraq, make it. Don't give me Chris Matthews screaming like a little girl.

I've responded to their "argument". Now post yours.

[Rhinox]

lol if threats to the united states is a basis for invading a sovereign nation then god help us.

China
Russia
North Korea
Iran
Syria
Jordan
Venezuela
Drug cartels

[ZarakiKujata]

lol if threats to the united states is a basis for invading a sovereign nation then god help us.

http://images.uncyc.org/pt/d/d7/Za_warudo.jpg

ftfy

[Leif]

lol if threats to the united states is a basis for invading a sovereign nation then god help us.

China
Russia
North Korea
Iran
Syria
Jordan
Venezuela
Drug cartels

How many of those guys regularly engage in genocide, constantly seek nuclear weapons, and try to launch attacks on US interests.

I'm pretty sure Iran and North Korea are the big ones. Last time I checked, those were named in the Axis of Evil.

[ZarakiKujata]

pretty sure you could make a case for every country besides Jordan to fit your case of genocide, nuclear weapons, and launching attacks on US interests.

[Kuya]

Regular genocide lol.

[pohibaba]

Ron Paul needs to step aside; Gary Johnson is the future of the Republican Party.

[Not not Mattaru]

This is too funny, or just in the wrong thread. You want a conservative bashing thread to be without any input by the conservative "trolls". What is the point of any thread if only the popular opinion is allowed.

People love Leif, for right or wrong lul. Most threads he is mentioned before he even gets on with "inb4 Leif gets on with his nonsense".

Wrong. I want a thread where the same 3-4 imbeciles don't shit the same shit all over the place and people get caught up in a big shitty mud puddle and mire around in it by giving said defecation artists the time of day.

I prefer progressive (in direction, scratch the political connotation) argument over the same bs posted over and over again because people like Leif will follow their flawed premises to the grave like their Dear Leaders.

Just look at this thread, people are calling for Leif to be reasonable and not do what he does all over the place.

Pardon my invective

[Zoolander]

Interesting...never heard of this Gary Johnson fellow. He seems to be far and away the coolest republican I've read about. Hes divorced, he was the highest official to publicly say we should decriminalize marijuana, a triathlete...a lot of his platform will make him intriguing to conservatives, but people are really weird when it comes to personal judgments when determining who to vote for president. Being divorced and the decriminalize stance will be a problem for some people.

I could prolly tolerate him as a republican candidate, although if he is a hard core libertarian (as opposed to a watered down, not completely insane one) then meh...

[Rhinox]

Interesting...never heard of this Gary Johnson fellow. He seems to be far and away the coolest republican I've read about. Hes divorced, he was the highest official to publicly say we should decriminalize marijuana, a triathlete...a lot of his platform will make him intriguing to conservatives, but people are really weird when it comes to personal judgments when determining who to vote for president. Being divorced and the decriminalize stance will be a problem for some people.

I could prolly tolerate him as a republican candidate, although if he is a hard core libertarian (as opposed to a watered down, not completely insane one) then meh...

Ron Paul is for Legalizing marijuana as well. quite frankly Ron paul was a longer and stronger resume. If it wasn't for the media labeling him as a crackpot he would be a much stronger voice in the conservative movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufekh_SwZd0

I don't envy you libertarians pohi. No matter what candidate you put forward they will always get labeled as kooks by the neocons that have hijacked the conservative movement. Gary Johnson will just be the next one.

[Cadsuane]

This is too funny, or just in the wrong thread. You want a conservative bashing thread to be without any input by the conservative "trolls". What is the point of any thread if only the popular opinion is allowed.

People love Leif, for right or wrong lul. Most threads he is mentioned before he even gets on with "inb4 Leif gets on with his nonsense".

Why is every post you make total shit?

Pro tip:

In a religion debate, you can avoid calling yourself a theist or atheist by calling yourself an agnostic. In an abortion debate, you can treat the subject as taboo and avoid ever having to formulate an opinion one way or another. And in a politics debate, you can avoid identifying with dems or the GOP by asking why everyone can't just get along and saying politics is stupid.

If that's all you can think to do in those three cases, you're better off shutting the fuck up.