NFL 2010 Offseason Thread

[Devolver]

That's fantastic

[Gadritan]

Shit, Marino only threw like 58% in college. He fucking sucked, didn't he?

[Mizango]

Josh Huepel was pretty dope too.

[Kyo]

Curtis Painter is pretty dope too.

[Penthesilea]

Jesus fucking Christ. This is equally retarded.

First of all, college means pretty much dick for 99.99% of QBs when they hit the NFL.

Secondly, that was 4-8years ago.

Third, McNabb was taken 2nd overall and turned out to be a great QB long term. That almost never happens. Kolb was taken in the 2nd round and it took him 4 years to take over the starting role, and the fact that they have Vick to fall back on was the safety net that made them go forward with it imo.

So what you're saying is that there can't be something blocking your taking over as starter?

Cause yeah Aaron Rodgers didn't just sit around for 3 years behind a HoFer.

McNabb was in his prime the past 3 years, you're trying to tell me that he should have beaten out a guy who they were committed to long term as their QB to go with a relative unknown? Andy Reid likes his project QBs (mike kafka for this year) and Vick will never be a (quality) starting QB in the league unless someone gets really really desperate.

[Chun Liroy]

Why risk your star player to injury in a game that your opponent has been crushed and humiliated... Oh wait, McNabb did just that getting his ribs broke...

71 yards of total passing sure is crushing and humiliating a team.

[Mizango]

Curtis Painter is pretty dope too.

Oh man, you took a swipe at the only Boilermaker that wont make me rage. He sent Joe Tiller out with shame and embarrassment, fuck Curtis Painter.

[Mizango]

71 yards of total passing sure is crushing and humiliating a team.

So you're turning on Miles Austin now? About time you woke up.

[Chun Liroy]

Kolb can do all that, thus it translates to improving the receiving corp, thus this makes them the top receiving threat in the NFC East.

In those 2 games, where he went 1-1, and beat up on the chiefs.

[Chun Liroy]

So you're turning on Miles Austin now? About time you woke up.

Yeah man, if miles only gets 71 passing yards in a game, he sure does suck dick.

[Penthesilea]

Shit, Marino only threw like 58% in college. He fucking sucked, didn't he?

Where am I saying that McNabb sucked? Last I checked I didn't, I said that I expect the numbers for the receivers to improve, YAC, YPR, Comp%.

It's an entirely different switch of systems, even though people called what the Eagles ran a WCO, it really wasn't. McNabb couldn't hit the short passes with any consistency, hence why the Eagles were so "explosive".

Also Marino was a 58% passer in college and was a 59% comp. passer in the pros. Another QB to back me up.

[Kyo]

Eric Berry gunna get in that ass this year.

[Gadritan]

So what you're saying is that my first two points are valid?

I'll give you any of the points you want on the third one since it's pretty much a moot point.

[Mizango]

Yeah man, if miles only gets 71 passing yards in a game, he sure does suck dick.

He gets 51 receiving and you crown him king of WR's? Its different since its an Eagle?

[Gadritan]

Where am I saying that McNabb sucked?

You're implying that Kolb is a better QB than him and trying to defend it with irrelevant stats.

[Penthesilea]

In those 2 games, where he went 1-1, and beat up on the chiefs.

If only box scores and w-l records told the whole story.

"So what? One of those games was against the Chiefs' terrible defense, and in the other game, he only racked up a lot of yardage because the Saints were playing a prevent defense. He's a turnover machine."

Truth is, a lot of people making the above arguments didn't even see both games that Kevin Kolb started, and are basing their entire judgment of Kolb on a couple box scores. Others that have seen him play have blurry memories, since... well... we haven't seen him play in over 7 months.

So let's just cut through all the BS, and simply watch all 85 passes he threw in his first 2 starts. I compiled every pass Kolb threw in his 2 starts, and separated them by drives. We'll do the Saints game first, and I'll get to the Chiefs game a little later this week. Let's get right to it after the jump...

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...-week-2-vs-new

Pretty decent breakdown of the plays.

[Gadritan]

If only box scores and w-l records told the whole story.

Holy fucking contradiction you twat. This is exactly what's wrong with your arguments about the g'damn iggles and Kolb.

[Penthesilea]

You're implying that Kolb is a better QB than him and trying to defend it with irrelevant stats.

I'm implying that they're different QBs, with different strengths. I don't think we'll see Kolb overthrowing Desean Jackson on a 50yd bomb (like #5 did a few times last year) but I don't think his numbers will be all that different in the end, aside from comp. %, YAC, and YPR.

What I think it will do in the long term is make the team as a whole better, because they'll have sustainable drives and consistency.

[Devolver]

What the fuck am I reading?

[Devolver]

I don't think we'll see Kolb overthrowing Desean Jackson on a 50yd bomb

What a balsy statement.