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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    you need to measure the positive effects and negative effects...the risks.
    alcohol isnt worth it, so is gambling. now food kills, but when you measure the positive effect of it, well it is healthy to have a well balanced diet and to eat what the body needs. you see, society is so messed up, your...or perhaps society in general is fixing one mistake with another.
    I gave positive examples with most of your negative ones. A little bit of alcohol is in fact healthy, playing some poker games with your buddies won't make you lose your house.

    Relationships busting because one party looks at porn too much?
    He or she are doing that because they have excess libido due to some reason (relationship problems, terrible sex or simply a bigger appetite). Now, what would these people probably do if they weren't getting off on porn? Go look for a casual fling or an affair. Not that porn prevents it for all of these cases, you can be an absolute porn connoisseur and still go cheat on your husband or wife.

    etc, no point in retyping the rest of my post, or quoting Sath's.

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    Stop questioning rigid rules. Just accept things and stop thinking for yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baha View Post
    I gave positive examples with most of your negative ones. A little bit of alcohol is in fact healthy, playing some poker games with your buddies won't make you lose your house.

    Relationships busting because one party looks at porn too much?
    He or she are doing that because they have excess libido due to some reason (relationship problems, terrible sex or simply a bigger appetite). Now, what would these people probably do if they weren't getting off on porn? Go look for a casual fling or an affair. Not that porn prevents it for all of these cases, you can be an absolute porn connoisseur and still go cheat on your husband or wife.

    etc, no point in retyping the rest of my post, or quoting Sath's.
    you seem to take pride in your fapping haha. fighting for it like this

    when you get married, try explaining that to your wife ok? and update us here.

    i love how everything would just work fine in your world.
    sorry to burst your bubble bro, but alcohol have wrecked more homes than keeping people healthy. and please dont argue about that, please..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    If porn is so bad then why is there so much of it on my computer? Got you there
    Sweet god I laughed way to hard at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baha View Post
    Relationships busting because one party drinks too much?
    He or she are doing that because they have excess stress due to some reason. Now, what would these people probably do if they weren't drinking alcohol to alleviate their problems? Go look for a harder drug like cocaine or heroin. Not that porn prevents it for all of these cases, you can be an absolute wine connoisseur and still go get high on heroin.
    If you make any substitutions in that statement, the logic falls apart. Masturbation and sex are not linked in such a way that doing one necessarily prevents the other. Many (maybe most) people in relationships do both, each for different reasons, and it doesn't indicate excessive libido, relationship problems, or anything else you named. People whose needs are met by porn are probably sating something completely different from people who are having affairs. The same way that the stepping stone argument doesn't work against porn (the myth that your tastes become more "hardcore" over time), it does not work in its favor either (prevents you from more "hardcore" behavior). It is not unquestionably the intermediate step between one action and another. I'm sure many people who cheat look at porn. I'm sure if someone who looks at porn to keep from cheating loses their internet access for 2 weeks, they won't necessarily be out balls deep in anyone that will allow it or allow them to pay for it, though they might be more irritable from losing that outlet for a period of time.

    I think a lot of people here are failing to fully appreciate the use of the word "addiction." Does anyone know what an actual addiction is, or are we all too busy feeling guilty and strange about the 3 hours a day we spend downloading and looking at porn, and that's what is driving the opinions here rather than logic? People who are addicted to porn use it to the point of it being a destructive force in their lives. They miss work or school, they neglect other social outlets in favor of porn viewing/use, they neglect routine functions (like the kid in the story who couldn't even get it together to stay hydrated through all the fapping), they forgo real sexual contact with others in favor of porn + jerking off, and it becomes the sole most important thing in their entire lives. It's an addiction with the same symptoms as any other addiction. It happens with alcohol, drugs, MMOs, and all sorts of other behaviors that are tools to bring pleasure and/or escape reality.

    Is it possible for people to become addicted to porn? Sure; you can become addicted to almost anything. Is that caused by having an internet connection? The obvious answer is no. If internet connection alone was the cause of porn addiction, every one of us posting here would simply not be posting here because we'd be too busy seeking out new porn or meticulously cataloging our downloaded porn to even have this conversation.

    Is it a positive thing for kids to see sexually explicit material? The effect is arguable, but it happens and people should get used to it. The fact that porn is so easily accessible to younger children only highlights a need for better communication about the realities of sex -- because a lot porn sure as fuck delivers only idealized situations that can make transitioning into real sex uninformed and even more awkward than normal. Blocking material from view and pretending it doesn't exist is never the answer, and a little parental discretion is definitely called for. I wouldn't flip my shit if my 12 year old son was looking at pictures of naked women on the internet, but it would be a prompt to start some kind of discussion with him about sex and masturbation. If he were watching hours of porn every single day, and it began to affect his grades, personal hygiene, and/or social relationships, then that would be a problem that would need to be addressed in a different way.

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    Also, shame on most of you for being taken in by the headline on that article. It's obviously sensationalized to attract attention and push a specific anti-technology, anti-porn agenda. With proper parenting, none of this is an issue. Why the fuck was the 12 year old kid in the article given his own computer with unlimited internet access in his room? You can't sit a kid in front of a machine and expect it to function as an appropriate babysitter. Nothing replaces the human element in parenting, but I guess dumb assholes everywhere are going to make bad choices and refuse to accept responsibility for their shit decisions until the end of time. Lrn 2 family computer. Lrn2 password protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    you seem to take pride in your fapping haha. fighting for it like this

    when you get married, try explaining that to your wife ok? and update us here.

    i love how everything would just work fine in your world.
    sorry to burst your bubble bro, but alcohol have wrecked more homes than keeping people healthy. and please dont argue about that, please..
    K. My late wife didn't have issues with it. Why? Because it didn't impede us from having sex when we wanted to, and my sex drive was higher than hers.

    Likewise, my current GF's sex drive is higher than mine. I have zero problems with her getting off, and we happily have sex when we're both in the mood.

    Spouses that are jealous of their partner's self-satisfactions need therapy.

    And for all that there's plenty of homes wrecked by alcoholics, there are even more in which familes do just fine with a few beers in the house or a bottle of wine. Fuck, my parents go with some of my relatives and family friends for European barge trips. What do they do? Float down a French river, tourist, and drink fucktons of the local wine while partying every night.

    Goddamn, I wish I can afford that when I hit my 60's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    If porn is so bad then why is there so much of it on my computer? Got you there
    I'm not sure if it's a combination of the cat and the quote or just the quote itself but I laughed so hard at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve View Post
    Also, shame on most of you for being taken in by the headline on that article. It's obviously sensationalized to attract attention and push a specific anti-technology, anti-porn agenda. With proper parenting, none of this is an issue. Why the fuck was the 12 year old kid in the article given his own computer with unlimited internet access in his room? You can't sit a kid in front of a machine and expect it to function as an appropriate babysitter. Nothing replaces the human element in parenting, but I guess dumb assholes everywhere are going to make bad choices and refuse to accept responsibility for their shit decisions until the end of time. Lrn 2 family computer. Lrn2 password protect.
    Well, to be fair, I assumed it was obvious his parents were utter fucking failures for leaving a 12~14 year old kid in a bedroom alone with completely unchecked internet access 24/7...

    Not saying you have to protect the kids from the world, but by Thor, that's just being a stupid cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve View Post
    If you make any substitutions in that statement, the logic falls apart. Masturbation and sex are not linked in such a way that doing one necessarily prevents the other. Many (maybe most) people in relationships do both, each for different reasons, and it doesn't indicate excessive libido, relationship problems, or anything else you named.
    Yeah, sorry if it came across like I was vilifying masturbation while in a relationship at all, it's a normal thing. They're separate things like you say.
    People whose needs are met by porn are probably sating something completely different from people who are having affairs. The same way that the stepping stone argument doesn't work against porn (the myth that your tastes become more "hardcore" over time), it does not work in its favor either (prevents you from more "hardcore" behavior). It is not unquestionably the intermediate step between one action and another. I'm sure many people who cheat look at porn. I'm sure if someone who looks at porn to keep from cheating loses their internet access for 2 weeks, they won't necessarily be out balls deep in anyone that will allow it or allow them to pay for it, though they might be more irritable from losing that outlet for a period of time.
    Yeah, I'm just arguing the fact to counter the "Porn can ruin relationships" with a "Porn can keep relationships going/interesting". My example was probably flawed (though I know this guy...).
    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    you seem to take pride in your fapping haha. fighting for it like this
    There's no pride to it. I'm just arguing because you think porn (or alcohol, or gambling apparently) is purely bad. It's not.
    when you get married, try explaining that to your wife ok? and update us here.
    My ex-gf knew, she didn't seem to have a problem with it afaik.
    i love how everything would just work fine in your world.
    sorry to burst your bubble bro, but alcohol have wrecked more homes than keeping people healthy. and please dont argue about that, please..
    I'm fully aware of the negative aspects thanks. Neither porn, alcohol or gambling will ever be put on a pedestal as virtuous things, they're still vices of a sort, and excessive use of any will be frowned upon and has potentially bad consequences.
    You're pretending like they're 100% terrible, contempt-worthy things which contribute nothing of worth and instantly corrupt you. I'd be arguing the same thing for all three, not just for porn.

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    I love how the arguement is always "Well if your wife/GF/Fuckbuddy/Hentai-pillow found out you watched porn, they'd ditch your ass." News flash, be open and honest with your partner right off the bat. I told my GF on our like 3rd date that I liked porn and that'd be something she'd have to be ok with. Guess what? She was! What a miracle. If you watch/like porn, you and your partner are the only people it matters to, if you're bot fine with it, then there's nothing wrong with someone watching porn.

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    Hell, she asks me for suggestions on sites that aren't full of shitty ads/false links, you think I mind that she likes to watch slutty blondes getting "used" in the same ways she talks about doing to random chicks on TV/in public that turn her on?

    Uh, fuck no I don't, I'm not THAT retarded.

    She's got a thing for Ashlynn Brooke, Shakira, and that receptionist chick from the british TV The Office.

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    hey firas religion can break up families and cause people to die.

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    ^ Got you there buddy

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    They thought he was fine until a weekend-long binge of Internet gaming and masturbating while looking at porn made him sick with dehydration.
    rofl

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    I wish she taught me some thangs.

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    same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post

    She's got a thing for Ashlynn Brooke, Shakira, and that receptionist chick from the british TV The Office.
    My chick loves Tori Black. Guess who got 50 Tori Black scenes as part of her gift package for Valentine's Day?

    Most people watch porn and to say anything else is a lie. Guys love porn, guys masturbate, and egads! Most girls masturbate, and the majority of them watch porn too.

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    *nods sagely*

    It doesn't hurt the odds of her bringing home a "girlfriend" to play with now and then either.

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