lv99 bitch/speculation/etc thread

[Crosius]

I have thought about the new augment system for a few hours. If original base stats mean nothing, players will be able to make any set which they find aesthetically pleasing into an endgame set. The whole debate over elite gear would be completely moot. A Whm who loves the look of his Clerics could augment them to be well suited to a lv99 world. I would augment the crap out of Field Gear, an Aspis and a Bastard Sword.

Galka PLD tanking Omega in field gear, moving off to oneshot the pods with Uriel Blade, shield bashing him with what looks like an over-sized watch, then finishing him with Atonement... priceless.

[Mojo]

Only 24 combined levels past 75, ala crafting.

[ringthree]

There is too much old context thinking about this whole thing. So much is going to change that you can't even guess at what is going to be the same or different.

To use an analogy: SE just dropped an orbital nuke on your neighborhood, and you are looking for your local McDonalds.

Everything is going to change. This is a whole new game.

[Folko]

For worrying RDM's:

Support job abilities that are not expected to steal the limelight from main jobs as a result of the level cap increase will be allowed to come into play. Furthermore, there are plans to tweak certain job abilities, job traits, and magic spells on an ongoing basis in order to further accentuate the uniqueness of each job when used in a main role, as well as its versatility when playing a supporting role.

I think people should stop jumping the gun about this... Very possible that Refresh could be a spell unusable while only a subjob.

[Mojo]

There is too much old context thinking about this whole thing. So much is going to change that you can't even guess at what is going to be the same or different.

To use an analogy: SE just dropped an orbital nuke on your neighborhood, and you are looking for your local McDonalds.

Everything is going to change. This is a whole new game.

I think most people know this but that's not gonna stop anybody from wanting to discuss it.

[Priran]

Unless there's some precedent for completely disabling a skill when a job is subbed that I'm forgetting, they'll probably either make Refresh a Lv.50 spell or nerf it to lameness.

[Crosius]

Unless there's some precedent for completely disabling a skill when a job is subbed that I'm forgetting, they'll probably either make Refresh a Lv.50 spell or nerf it to lameness.

They'll probably use the Hasso model for sub-gimping.

[Talint]

Unless there's some precedent for completely disabling a skill when a job is subbed that I'm forgetting, they'll probably either make Refresh a Lv.50 spell or nerf it to lameness.

/SAM Meditate gives 60TP, as opposed to 100.
Call Wyvern is DRG main only.
/DNC gives 1 finishing move per step instead of two.
/NIN :Ni gives 3 shadows instead of 4.

Certainly not without precedent. Locking out a magic spell completely would be a first though, I believe.

[ringthree]

I think most people know this but that's not gonna stop anybody from wanting to discuss it.

Oh, I love the discussion. But the speculation shouldn't be limited to the normal context of things we know about the game at 75 and below.

For example, the MNK's that are crying about the PUPs getting A H2H, or the PUPs that think they are great now. At 75 MNKs could have 8000 HP and get Chi Blast 2 with additional effect provoke on a 5 second timer and are now the only viable tanks for the new Wonder Twin Dragon Faffy McNidderson.

I'm just saying this is going to be fun.

[ronin sparthos]

With the new cap gonna be @ 99, wth is gonna happened to the buffs on CoP rings(the 2~5 part)? the gonna turn it into a 2~6 or????

Prolly cap at 75 as usual and remain static from 76~99.

[ringthree]

/SAM Meditate gives 60TP, as opposed to 100.
Call Wyvern is DRG main only.
/DNC gives 1 finishing move per step instead of two.
/NIN :Ni gives 3 shadows instead of 4.

Certainly not without precedent. Locking out a magic spell completely would be a first though, I believe.

I thought about it another way. As MP pools increase, it may be more of a requirement that all mages have access to a constant amount of refresh because it will take even longer to fill back up when resting.

[Taruking]

Unless there's some precedent for completely disabling a skill when a job is subbed that I'm forgetting, they'll probably either make Refresh a Lv.50 spell or nerf it to lameness.

I still find it hard to believe SE allow SJ RDM to sue Convert, one of the signature JAs of RDM. Even if SJ convert only returns 50% MP it's still quite significant for BLM and SCH.

On the other hand, they will probably grant RDM access to T4 nukes.

[Priran]

Hasso was still pretty good when subbed, wasn't it? I was thinking more along the lines of /THF trick attack.

[ringthree]

Prolly cap at 75 as usual and remain static from 76~99.

If gear scales up, why wouldn't CoP rings?

[ringthree]

Hasso was still pretty good when subbed, wasn't it? I was thinking more along the lines of /THF trick attack.

It is very good when subbed still, I think the additional STR is the only thing effected.

[Nightfyre]

Only 24 combined levels past 75, ala crafting.

This would honestly bug the shit out of me. Part of the reason I enjoy FFXI over other MMOs is the ability to play one of several different jobs more or less as I wish. I'd hate to lose that versatility in even a portion of the game's environment (the new higher-level areas).

[fantasticdan]

I thought about it another way. As MP pools increase, it may be more of a requirement that all mages have access to a constant amount of refresh because it will take even longer to fill back up when resting.

That plus increased spell mp costs, rdm might get refresh 2, making refresh 1 from /rdm sub not as big of a deal. Thou knowing SE, we'll still probably be relying on the old refresh, and it will be nerfed or unusable on sub.

Convert will definitely be nerfed on sub thou, if usable at all.

[Kyreth]

I see your Battletoads and give you:

http://g.imagehost.org/0786/Touhou2.jpg

I see your Touhou and bring the entire argument full circle.

http://hijiribe.donmai.us/data/sampl...32271bd6f5.jpg

[pixiehawk]

That plus increased spell mp costs, rdm might get refresh 2, making refresh 1 from /rdm sub not as big of a deal. Thou knowing SE, we'll still probably be relying on the old refresh, and it will be nerfed or unusable on sub.

Convert will definitely be nerfed on sub thou, if usable at all.

I agree about the Refresh2 (or maybe Refreshga) but they did show a whm using convert. It could be nerfed (say half the MP or something) but subs will apparently have it.

[Sho]

I see your Touhou and bring the entire argument full circle.

http://hijiribe.donmai.us/data/sampl...32271bd6f5.jpg

Crazy ass games.