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  1. #721
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosius View Post
    Yeah, i wasn't thinking about skill levels /facepalm.

    I know that RDM/NINs can tank just fine as they are, but they can't hold hate worth a damn. Mitigation is only half of tanking. Yonin not only gives them even more mitigation, but it gives a measure of hate control so they can hold a mob off of an alliance, without THF assistance, or a huge head start on CE.
    I really feel like this post should be quoted every time this thread hits a new page.

  2. #722
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    Don't make fun of him, 30 evasion for a rdm will mitigate so much damage you just don't even know.

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    lol, you can make fun of me, i can take it. i usually don't retaliate. after my post got such rave reviews i did some homework on RDM/NIN tanks. on my server i had never seen it in action to any degree. some of the newer HNM shells looked to me to be no-skill morons using a "curebomb the pally" strat on everything, which makes me the moron. my ignorance is your opportunity. enjoy.

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    All I can say is it'll be a fun ride to watch either way. I have a feeling that by the end of the year everyone will have quit or we'll be happy as hell playing with our new toys.

    Seriously I could care less if this ruins current content. I've done at least 90% of the content in this game. Instead of this SE could just keep adding terrible useless content but they decided to take a big risk. I'm not saying they won't fuck this up completely but I was getting bored anyways. At least this way I have new goals that I can work slowly towards that don't require having a massive income of gil and time. Even if it's just watching them drive this game into the ground it'll be a fun ride.

  5. #725
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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Gonna mirror the sentiment for liking all of this for basically reinventing the wheel. I just hope people let this make the game fun again instead of, once caps are done and raised, we're back to now just with 24 more levels under our belts and higher skill caps. As is, I think people are already looking too hard for fictional downsides like 1 job to 99, a false sense of overpowered-ness for some abilities, old zones being capped, or current HNMs getting scaled. Given SE's recent blurb, the simplest interpretation of the announcement really is what we're getting. No tricks. Added bonus is stuff like CoP zone caps getting lifted and new zones/content on the horizon to match this increase.
    for the most part yeah, I think people are trying to read way too hard into things

    I do, however, wonder if CoP zones are going to not just have cap raised, but mob levels raised. I don't see what other "preparation/consideration" is needed to just remove the caps.


    I'll be shocked though if they use caps or increase levels to make stuff like kings harder though.

    Seems to me the whole point is that when the XIV exodus occurs, those that want to stick with ffxi will have plenty of grinding to do, and not be completely debilitated by lack of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    for the most part yeah, I think people are trying to read way too hard into things

    I do, however, wonder if CoP zones are going to not just have cap raised, but mob levels raised. I don't see what other "preparation/consideration" is needed to just remove the caps.


    I'll be shocked though if they use caps or increase levels to make stuff like kings harder though.

    Seems to me the whole point is that when the XIV exodus occurs, those that want to stick with ffxi will have plenty of grinding to do, and not be completely debilitated by lack of people.
    Just like the lvl 50 HNMs.... I know for a fact that the lvl75 player "HNM KINGS" will not be scaled. They will simply become obsolete and they are making new HNMs instead.

    Update in march has new NMs and HNMs.... update in june has new NMs and HNMs... update in dec has new NMs and HNMs if you read on playonline.com.

    I think each update that has a level cap increase will introduce their respective HNMs for that lvl cap.

    Example.. update in june will be HNMs that are hard for lvl 80 players and easy for lvl99 players when that lvl is accessible and you return to these HNMS... but in the december update, those new HNMs on that update will be hard for lvl 99 players and impossible for a lvl 80 player to kill as their lvl is too low for those HNMs.

    Basically lvl 95 monsters in march and june update which lvl 80's can kill and with december update having a mob that is over lvl 100 that is a force for the lvl 99 cap.

    I also expect a complete new zone list like when TOAU besiged map was introduced. I expect like at least 10 different zones scattered around for the exp camps of 75-78, 78-84, 84-89. 89-93, 93-96, 96-99 etc. It will be fresh, give it time guys. The relics will also be upgraded to fit the current style of this game now (like the 2 handed update I hope.) With the Trial moogle quest shit.

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    Obsolete implies that the loot they drop will be replaced, this is not the case with any of the level 50 NMs you are talking about. Trotters are the only option for low level movement speed, v belt, and dryad staff is still a good whm option, also you don't know anything for a fact. stop that.

  8. #728
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazzyphizzle View Post
    also you don't know anything for a fact. stop that.
    This x1000, as mentioned in my post in the AV thread.

    Also, they wanted to keep people playing, this is the most logical decision they could have made. I'm all for it. Gives me something to do, continue levelling jobs I love and new places to exp instead of the same old boring crap.

    Also, they would not throw this out there willy nilly without giving serious thought as to how it would affect game balance, as they are obsessed with that. So I trust that they have it all planned out.

    inb4 no it's SE, they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Seems to me the whole point is that when the XIV exodus occurs, those that want to stick with ffxi will have plenty of grinding to do, and not be completely debilitated by lack of people.
    This makes the most sense to me. Nobody's expecting every last player to switch to 14, so it would seem logical that SE try to make the game enjoyable to those "left behind" by not requiring more than a full pt for any single event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Sadly, that's what this thread it about.
    Which would make his post okay if he wasn't excited about everything he said as though it was guaranteed to happen.

  11. #731
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    Get your logic out of here.

  12. #732
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    Get your logic out of here.
    Xavier let's make our static to 99 now, I'll come Ninja and you can come Thief. Trust me, your PLD will be worthless.

    All I know is, I'm gonna hit 99 Blue Mage and probably have like 125 spells max to choose from [I think there's like 110 right now?]

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    New camping grounds are scheduled to be added to cater to the anticipated rise in demand for experience parties. Furthermore, the redistribution of monsters in existing areas is also under consideration.
    Seems to me they're thinking about removing Monsters in areas that no longer in use by people (Moon?) and adding stronger monsters in those areas for us to Exp off!

    Sorry if this already been posted ^^;

  14. #734
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    I think I've been to moon once, in 2005 or something...

    It's behind a gate or something in ro'meave right?

    Whirl of rage was awesome for skilling up evasion while in an xp pt lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I mentioned this elsewhere but, if they decide to leave the cap at 80 for the length of one update Octave Klub will be a full on KC. If it matters at that stage is another issue though.
    Aww I was gonna post this but I was beaten to the punch 20 pages ago.

    It bears repeating though. If you have an Octave Club you might have a really fun time between June and September this year, if we are 80 capped at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    I think I've been to moon once, in 2005 or something...

    It's behind a gate or something in ro'meave right?

    Whirl of rage was awesome for skilling up evasion while in an xp pt lol
    Oh God please don't bring the memories of exp parties there back... dispel dispel dispel dispel slash wrists.. dispel dispel dispel. I hated moon parties with an unimaginable loathing, more so than fighting with 10 other parties in Bikini Bay.

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    I'm curious how they're going to scale the xp needed for each level. Shit's going to get intense at the current rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    dead game casted Reraise III
    Not to be a grammar nazi, but I have seen the collection of letters "casted" far to many times today. The past tense of to cast, is cast. (can be had cast in the participle form). Casted is not a word in anyway shape or form in English.

  19. #739
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    There's a fair chance that it was deliberate.

    btw, 50g you spell colour wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordTrey2 View Post
    Not to be a grammar nazi, but I have seen the collection of letters "casted" far to many times today. The past tense of to cast, is cast. (can be had cast in the participle form). Casted is not a word in anyway shape or form in English.
    I spy an unnecessary comma.

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