lv99 bitch/speculation/etc thread

[Crosius]

Did anyone ask when the development of abyssea started? How long have they been working on this? Was this thing scripted 3 years ago after ToAU? Was it SE's intent for the last few years to play this final trump card when the server populations started to die out? Have they known that this would be the final iteration of FFXI, and design WotG, and the 3 mini expansions in a way they they wouldn't affect this final design? Can all the incomprehensible non-answers from the devs be explained by the knowledge this was going to be the future shape of Vanadiel?

[Shalafi]

Just thought of something, with the cap being increased to 99, and likely base stats increasing as well, Is it possible that race is actually going to be a deciding factor for some jobs? Or if not deciding, we'll start see (very) noticeable differences? Are Taru's going to be good at tanking and melee jobs? I'm sure gear will still allow them to hold their own but will endgame LS's start shunning them? What about Galka mages, or Elvaan BLM's?

It could mean that the gap will be reduced or eliminated (lol) since that is the route they are taking in XIV.

[D44kpunk]

Most of the whiners have logged off and quit FFXI months ago. Their sole existance for being here on the boards is to whine so they dont have to come back.

The gloating that would have came had SE decided to announce XI was shutting down is replaced with "fuck, i have to come back" thoughts and so the internal debacle begins.

yea, clearly everyone that's quit wants to come back and LEVEL their 75 jobs to 99, you're a fucking genius bro. this guy for president

[Gergall]

yea, clearly everyone that's quit wants to come back and LEVEL their 75 jobs to 99, you're a fucking genius bro. this guy for president

I don't know anybody that is quitting over this announcement.

I do know people that are coming back.

[WyldFyre]

Who got raped with a 30 inch dildo? Because it seems there's a whole lot of butt hurt in here.

[ronin sparthos]

yea, clearly everyone that's quit wants to come back and LEVEL their 75 jobs to 99, you're a fucking genius bro. this guy for president

As opposed to them coming back and bitching there is nothing to do as usual eh?

This gives people who quit a reason to COME BACK and explore something NEW, FUN, FRESH and EXCITING. Day 6 Fafnir isnt any of the above and SSR #110 isnt any of the above either.

SE finally decided to make a ballsy move and raise the level cap for new content and is upping the level cap over nine months and thats too much? Way to bitch about TNLs that dont exist yet.

You don't have to level to 99. You can be a unique snowflake and stay at 75 doing content the old fashioned way. Meanwhile, the rest of the community will be having fun with hopefully more challenging content than what we have now.

[D44kpunk]

I don't know anybody that is quitting over this announcement.

I do know people that are coming back.

there are tons of posts of people saying this finally gave them a reason to quit, read the whole thread before you decide to type up a useless post

[Xanthe]

Lucavi you totally need to reactivate Gelwain and transfer to Carbuncle. Nothing to lose now that Hades is going to disappear!

[D44kpunk]

As opposed to them coming back and bitching there is nothing to do as usual eh?

This gives people who quit a reason to COME BACK, something NEW, FUN, FRESH and EXCITING to fucking do. Day 6 Fafnir isnt any of the above, SSR #110 isnt any of the above either.

SE finally decided to make a ballsy move and raise the level cap for new content and is upping the level cap over nine months and thats too much? Way to bitch about TNLs that dont exist yet.

You don't have to level to 99. You can be a unique snowflake and stay at 75 doing content the old fashioned way. Meanwhile, the rest of the community will be having fun with hopefully more challenging content than what we have now.

Anyone who says theres nothing to do on ffxi is fucking insane, in an endgame shell you can be busy every second of the day the content is just boring as shit. i rarely play due to the fact that

1. the game is complete shit, content patchs are rare as fuck inb4 "OH MY GOD ISNT' THIS THE CONTENT PATCH U MEANT???? LOL" yea the first content patch in 2 years that changes endgame gg SE

2. the game is easy as fuck, there is not a single complex fight, there are fights that require numbers and fights that don't. ffxi is an easy game.

3. too many retards

so yes i will be a unique snowflake because leveling on this game is hell 1-75 legitly (not smn burning) was bad enough 75-99 will be shit

[Klaatu]

I'm actually tempted to reactivate because of this update

[Valisk]

I know that RDM/NINs can tank just fine as they are, but they can't hold hate worth a damn. Mitigation is only half of tanking.

This should have been an instant b&. Just sayin...

[Lucavi]

yea, clearly everyone that's quit wants to come back and LEVEL their 75 jobs to 99, you're a fucking genius bro. this guy for president

Actually that'd be the number one reason I'd come back for... you know, progression? A sense of advancement other than watching someone else in my LS get another mcgriddle or another night of staring at merits that have been capped for 3 years?

Who would have thought that true progression would get some people ready to come back. Hell, nostalgia itself is a big factor. Hitting 99 was always the thing to do in old school FF games. Its nice to see it's online version receiving a nice coat of throwback paint.

@Zanthe: You drive a hard bargin. I'm tempted to, just so I can fight alongside other strong drgs like yourself.

[RyaWHM]

the game is easy as fuck, there is not a single complex fight, there are fights that require numbers and fights that don't. ffxi is an easy game.

Here are some challenges to try:
- do a "numbers" fight with fewer numbers
- do a "numbers" fight solo
- build/learn an unusual job combo
- find a new use for said combo
- beat AV
- post a happy smiletown post filled with rainbows and butterfly-shaped cotton candy poofs
- devise a use for spell interruption sets

The possibilities are endless!

[dannyl]

D44kpunk i think its time to shut up. Your arguements are FAIL.

[Fiarlia]

Blah, sarcasm lost through text.

[Xanthe]

@Xanthe: You drive a hard bargin. I'm tempted to, just so I can fight alongside other strong drgs like yourself.

I just hope I can get those last 22 Jades before June. I want to ride to 99 in style. :D Especially if they end up tweaking weapon skills like they hinted at:

Maintaining battle balance remains one of our highest priorities. As such, we intend to conduct reviews on an ongoing basis and introduce new equipment and adjust weapon skills as necessary.

If anything it's a small glimmer of hope that relic weapon skills will be fixed in the future.

[Necronus]

Just thought of something, with the cap being increased to 99, and likely base stats increasing as well, Is it possible that race is actually going to be a deciding factor for some jobs?

Actually, the exact opposite if the current equation remains unchanged. I don't have it on me at this exact second but I will dig it up if people want specific numbers but the following is APPROXIMATELY true (numbers will be guessed from memory, but will get the point across)

Much like weapons have ratings (A, B, C, etc), there is an identical system in place for the 7 base stats plus HP and MP. Each race and each job gets a base stat and a growth rating from A to G. Galka have "G" MP growth for example. The combination of race and job dictates stat growth giving the usual paradigms we see today. The thing you might not have noticed is that at level 60 (approx) when the cap was upped from 50, SE realized growth would do exactly what you were worried about, so at 60 growth INVERTS. Not entirely inverted, but suddenly a Mithra who had an "A" rating in DEX from race and "A" rating in DEX from job has something on the order of an "E" or "F" rating in DEX from both race and job.

If memory serves, a Mithra THF, the combo with the highest DEX gain in the game from1->60 only gets 2 points of DEX in the last 15 levels whereas a Hume BLM suddely gains like 6 points. Again, numbers are guessed at from memory, but the base premise remains. I'll see if I can get the extrapolated real numbers for 76 thorugh 99 later.

TLDR VERSION: If SE forgets to fix the current equations race/job growth will be the OPPOSITE of logical growth.


Edit: Just ran the numbers on BLMs of various races subbing the current standard of RDM. Here are the INT, HP, and MP results:

Edit2: Moved charts to new post at end of thread.

[Lucavi]

I just hope I can get those last 22 Jades before June. I want to ride to 99 in style. :D Especially if they end up tweaking weapon skills like they hinted at:



If anything it's a small glimmer of hope that relic weapon skills will be fixed in the future.

Just fix my penta mod and I'll be happy. I mean banging out 2.4ks were fun in merits, but I wanted to break 1k consistently in the few HNMs I participated in, but the retarded modifiers on penta and terrible stat-scaling made it very difficult to get anywhere near that.

[jamesfk]

there are tons of posts of people saying this finally gave them a reason to quit, read the whole thread before you decide to type up a useless post

Ya, the same people quit every update/patch/expansion and complain how bad SE runs things while still paying every month.

[EternalSnow]

My friend keeps saing the lvl cap is only for walk of echoes... /sigh. I just hope SE makes it more clear to people about this lvl cap thing