lv99 bitch/speculation/etc thread

[Lucavi]

I agree to an extent with your points but this new level cap increase is only exciting to me because XI had been at that hard cap for so long in the first place.

New challenges, new mobs, new events are what make these updates exicting because for the first time ever SE will be crushing some old content and replacing it with new. I for one welcome Fafnir and Dragon's Aery going the way of Simurgh camp.

Raise the bar and present the new "Fafnir" that will challenge established shells and keep it off no effort farm status for a short while. Make the newer mobs repop more often and it sweetens the pot even more.

Who the hell cares if the game goes to hell in a hand basket if SE is cranking out new challenges and exciting shit to do in upcoming patches? The game was already going to shit when the majority of endgame was based on how much shit you talk and how fast you could kill Colibri.

Bring back the days of a mob like Vrtra running about where maybe only 1 or 2 shells could handle it for a couple of days and you've got a successful patch.

I don't mind only 1 or 2 shells being able to beat it. I mind only 1 or 2 shells being able to -fight- it, because its another tired and flawed system of world-spawns that cater to the best and most expensive bot on the market.

Instance that shit and give everyone a fair shot. If a team of players isn't strong enough to beat it, then so be it, but don't subject them to a third dimension of difficulty in just having to struggle to claim the damned thing legitimately over a bunch of botters.

For a game that SE claims is all about "teamwork and fellowship", there certainly has been a long and fiery history of said "comrades" fighting amongst one another to fight the big bad boss.

I suppose it's got to look hilarious to one of the HNMs in seeing this mass of scurrying little rats squabbling over who gets to plink at it with sharp twigs.

[Darkyrm]

If you don't like the concept of change in a game that you, as a customer, pay a company to continuously update with new content, then you are playing the wrong genre.

You should go pick up White knight Chronicles. You get to play online to have your virtual chatroom, and you'll never have to worry about the game ever changing or moving forward, so you never have to worry about aaaaanything eeeever being better than Sky and Salvage gear.

God forbid people want something new to accomplish after years of dropping 15 bucks a month. God forbid people want to see their characters, who they've poured a lot of effort into, continuously grow instead of hitting some hard cap for 4 years, and then the game simply becomes cock-blocking others outside of your LS from attaining what you've attained, day in and day out.

People say FF's community is the best? I beg to differ. Arguing against change and progress because of some contrived notion of self-entitlement at never having to work hard for an upgrade again is just... ugh.

I dont understand how some of you are reacting to my posts and puting words on my mouth, Ive been playing FFXI for 6 years and have enjoyed it a lot, so why is that I should play another game?

And I never said Im against change or something new to acomplish but what I clearly dont like is WoW-like gear progresion where it seems every new Expansion destroys all the hard earned gear before that to pieces, one reason I have liked FFXI all these year is that once you get some hard pieces you really have that value for a long time.

Its funny I get some angry anwers to my posts while Im not hating in the game, the new cap or expasion content only poiting that Im concerned about what will happen to some of the hardest gear to get right now, but I really dont mind since it seems that Trial of Magians is going to be there to help people like me so whatever...

[Telliani]

If there is is level cap quest like all the times before, couldn't someone not do it and be a Lv75 slave for sync? Don't know if the ability to switch to merit at 75 will still be there or not, but switching to merit to not level past 75 could also be an option. With that, all the existing 75 merit locations could level you to 99.

I'm sure that's probably feasible.. but.. WHY? I would rip my hair out if I had to fight yet MORE birds from level 75-80/99.. Why would you want to stare at colibri for another year when there's a brand new camp out there to go find and beat the crap out of? Though, with me... I had my red mage do all the normal exp parties (I missed out on sky parties, but did a lot of CoP zones), my bst to solo in some remote location where no one ever knew about, and my whitemage would usually get picked up by some japanese and go find some really... odd place to level, like fomor out by one of the missions for Aht Urghan.

Sometimes I really do miss grouping up in Jeuno, teleporting out to Holla and running to Ramperes tomb. Or Altep and dropping down on some Ants, or running for an hour through the tree to fight some crawlers... Now it's just a lot of pink feathers and really? that's boring as HELL. I looove going to fight out by the trolls and watching my tank drop from full to 20% hitpoints from fire breath. I liked Ose camp because that's where my redmage learned how to sleep chain 3 and 4 while working on 2.

But.. I hate birds >_> and I prefer "Lets go somewhere new even if it isn't 25k an hour exp" mentality.

[Lucavi]

Nobody brought in WoW. FFXI will never become WoW, but FFXI clearly wants to compete with the big boys on the block, and as such, is opening their restricted little minds to what competitors are doing.

My pieces were just as hard-earned as yours, and I wouldn't mind replacing them at all, because I don't feel that I should feel some sense of entitlement to wear the same old gear since RotZ. I also don't feel like I'm playing in a non-persistent, evolving world when I can still see gear that was around in 2004 on the inventory screens of some of the strongest people in FFXI. I don't feel like I should be paying money to play what was out in 2004 with little changes in the actual strength of my character.

Your concerns are your concerns, and that's fine, but my point still stands: apparently, in your mind, the game should have ended with Salvage. Salvage should have the big tag of "End of the Road" slapped on top of its collective entrance, just like Sky should have had before it.

[Fridell]

I dont understand how some of you are reacting to my posts and puting words on my mouth, Ive been playing FFXI for 6 years and have enjoyed it a lot, so why is that I should play another game?

And I never said Im against change or something new to acomplish but what I clearly dont like is WoW-like gear progresion where it seems every new Expansion destroys all the hard earned gear before that to pieces, one reason I have liked FFXI all these year is that once you get some hard pieces you really have that value for a long time.

Its funny I get some angry anwers to my posts while Im not hating in the game, the new cap or expasion content only poiting that Im concerned about what will happen to some of the hardest gear to get right now, but I really dont mind since it seems that Trial of Magians is going to be there to help people like me so whatever...

Don't worry dude, I get ya and I'm in the same boat here. What we learned about updates in this game is that it is useless to speculate, even if it's fun.

[Malacite]

Did everyone skip past the part where it says the Trials of Magians is specifically for 75's? I'm pretty sure what they meant by that is none of the new 76+ gear will be upgradable which would make perfect sense. Given that the whole point is so that the older gear isn't obsoleted, I very much doubt you will be able to upgrade the new stuff at all.

Though personally I could care less about all the people who own a Relic or Mythic and are QQ'ing over this. Both of those weapons are great examples of very bad game design and I'd actually like nothing more than to see them obsoleted and shown up for the colossal waste of time they are.

[Bikpik]

I don't think there's much more SE can add equipment wise. We're already at the Haste cap, Acc cap(for most things), %PDT cap, Blood pact timer cap, (and probably some other caps that I can't think of right now) 6hit builds(maybe even 5), Blms pulling off 3k nukes, and Rdms soloing pretty much everything.

The only thing I can think of that can be done is to combine all the stats onto single pieces, so we can carry more equipment for different classes of jobs.

[Yabby]

Though personally I could care less about all the people who own a Relic or Mythic and are QQ'ing over this. Both of those weapons are great examples of very bad game design and I'd actually like nothing more than to see them obsoleted and shown up for the colossal waste of time they are.

QQ some more

[Siatdiat]

One of the most common complaints I hear about combat in XI is its often times slow and dull. Yes, we can pretty much cap haste in most situations its needed but what if the cap is raised and higher level enemys and HNMs are suddenly hitting alot faster and with new job abilities we suddenly have alot more things to react with while fighting? Past 75, each job could even have catch all traits that shorten current recast of abilities to basically make everyones jobs require a little more attention to detail. Adjusting for balance at 99 really means the sky is the limit.

People talk about how they sit and watch movies or do other shit while camping HNM, but dont alot of you watch movies and shit while doing dynamis as well? Would anyone be upset if suddenly they are so enthralled with what is going on in game that they cant really pay attention to the TV and have to focus on the game?

[Lucavi]

QQ some more

Only if you say the exact same thing for those on the other side of the fence, that are QQinig about having their shit "downgraded".

A little equality, please. Whining is whining.


Edit: ^ It wouldn't be FFXI anymore if it was like that. It would be "catering to the whiners and fans of other games." FFXI purists don't want change. They want the gear they botted for for years to remain the best, so they never have to go through the "stress" of having serious competition for the new shit ever again.

[Yabby]

Only if you say the exact same thing for those on the other side of the fence, that are QQinig about having their shit "downgraded".

A little equality, please. Whining is whining.

Naww they are bitching, and yes its for no good reason. Relic's are SE's baby's if they become underpowered they will fix it. I was referring to the fact he wanted to see it happen because they are 'useless' when in fact hes just bitching because he can't get one.

[Eleven19]

Truthfully as a relic owner I'm pretty excited about the idea of upgrading. Especially for Amano, it will be nice to finally (Hopefully) widen the gap between that and Hagun.

I understand the gear argument QQing, I just think that with the magian quests we have less to worry about than we are, and we don't know exactly what's going to happen yet.

For once, an update I'm attempting to be optimistic about.

[Yabby]

I have a G-horn so i'm not sure what "Upgrade" i could do to it, but ether way i'm looking forward to this update good and bad.

[Lucavi]

Naww they are bitching, and yes its for no good reason. Relic's are SE's baby's if they become underpowered they will fix it. I was referring to the fact he wanted to see it happen because they are 'useless' when in fact hes just bitching because he can't get one.

Have they ever "fixed" relics? I mean hotfixing them the second something new is discovered that would "tarnish" them?

AV is SE's baby, not relics. Relics are just their money-making claim to fame.

[Eleven19]

I have a G-horn so i'm not sure what "Upgrade" i could do to it, but ether way i'm looking forward to this update good and bad.

I'm sure they'll do something. Even if its just all songs +3 or 4, higher CHR and Wind skill or something.

I'd be happy even if Amano did nothing more than scale the DMG: stat. I suspect they'll get more, but we'll see.

[Gunitsoldier]

SE is having the biggest laugh of their lives reading the massive QQ'ing going on here

[Yabby]

I'm sure they'll do something. Even if its just all songs +3 or 4, higher CHR and Wind skill or something.

I'd be happy even if Amano did nothing more than scale the DMG: stat. I suspect they'll get more, but we'll see.

+3 to it would be crazy, double the fact if for some reason we get ballad III. Even if they didn't update anything like that tho, the raise in lvl alone would be crazy for brd and march.

[Eleven19]

+3 to it would be crazy, double the fact if for some reason we get ballad III. Even if they didn't update anything like that tho, the raise in lvl alone would be crazy for brd and march.

Good. Will be many fun.

[Kyreth]

My concern is simple. I spent the last 4-6 months focused on Salvage (along with other stuff). I don't want my Salvage gear to be invalidated by level 99 gear.

So my hope is that there is no level 99 gear and 75 to 99 is just stats/new job abilities/maybe AF3 gear which is just improving on abilities and specialized areas.

AF3 is confirmed already from interviews- and the concept of no 76+ level gear...well, not happening. You're going to have higher level gear. Things will become obselete. Some of it will be upgradable via quests, just like the relic/mythics are gonna be.

[Lovex]

I think the people qqing about how they shouldnt add any gear passed 75.. because
such person put forth such hard work into the gear sound incredibly selfish....

This is coming from someone who has a relic, is doing a second relic and is 15/15 marduk 11/15 morrigan.

So.. SE should deny adding better gear to the community because such
person worked so hard for their gears and want them to stay "the best"? Right..

Do you people saying that realize how selfish you sound?

Its almost as bad as the people qqing hoping for them to gimp relics cause they never could get one.