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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenW View Post
    Maybe they're making it so people who are claimed "gimp" (not elite) can continue on with the game, and all the people who have already killed every HNM 20+ times and think they have all the best gear already will fuck off and make way.
    lol. Someone's mad they couldn't get into x LS

  2. #102
    Bagel
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    i lol'd. ill lurk around just to see what kind of shit se brings.

  3. #103
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    I can just see it now...

    <call10> Protectra V
    <call11> Shellra V
    <call17orwhicheveronethegongsoundis> COME GET YOUR HASTE BITCHES

  4. #104
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira View Post
    I can just see it now...

    <call10> Protectra V
    <call11> Shellra V
    <call17orwhicheveronethegongsoundis> COME GET YOUR HASTE BITCHES
    Oh shit, I just realized I'll have haste on COR/RDM....

  5. #105
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    I don't think raising the level caps to 99 or combing servers are inherently bad ideas. I think the problem is going to be how slowly SE adjust things.

    Lets say they raise the level cap to 80 and deny everyone Convert. Okay, no big deal, it was expected. But lets say they don't deny anyone Accession. They said when they introduced them that SCH and DNC were designed to be subjobs more than main jobs iirc, so it would be justifiable from that standpoint. Still, you've made RDM/SCH a total monster (Hastega, Refreshga) and given them Erase. Suddenly WHMs and SCHs can't get invites to the chain-1 pulling parties at the (optimistically) four new camps they introduce, emo-out, and quit! Just based on their past history it would take them months to admit they didn't plan very will, fix it, and restore balance.

    This is just one hypothetical example out of the dozens of possibilities. The only way I foresee this change being successful is if they make levels above 75 give a negligible stat/skill increase and don't change the xp/mob we get very much. If they don't, here's a convenient list of places you won't be able to xp after level 80:
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Areas


    I guess my main logistical concern is that ^. We're looking at a minimum of about 108 merit points worth of xp per job to get to 99, when it's 6 years into the game and everyone has multiple 75s. Even at 25k/hr, that's over 40 hours of xping per job to 99 from 75. We're looking at about 25000 hours of 25k/hr parties per server to let people get their 75s to 99 (40hours per 75*4,000 "75s to 99"/6 people per party). You can level Sync down and kill Colibris and Mamool for a while, but eventually people will ding and you'll all be forced to join everyone else fighting for repops in the new zones they add or fighting for repops in Korroloka.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanaFest2010_EN twitter feed
    Minor error on the website: it states the Level Cap increase will occur in the March update, but it's actually planned for the June update.
    So we get to speculate for three and a half months.

  7. #107
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    lvl 99 smn using the HQ ele staff still I bet. If anyone is like me this will bring lots of old players who quit because everything got old... I myself did not have everything but I will tell you I have seen every item in the game drop more then once.

    WoTG end game+ lvl cap raise + fresh adds to old jobs? count me in.

  8. #108
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    Speaking of HQ staves.... SE said they may merge the staves together via Synergy.

  9. #109
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    If I need an R. Goldpiece and some trophy items to upgrade my Amano I WILL CLIMB A FUCKING BELLTOWER

  10. #110
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    I'd think people would just be happy that significant amounts of content have been announced. least we won't be sitting in wg jerkin our moogles off. so what if your gear becomes obsolete, aren't you tired of the shit anyways by now.

  11. #111
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    It's worth pointing out that in their timeframe of things to come in future updates... Aside from regular NMs, new HNMs are listed in every update that has a level cap increase. This is personally very disheartening for me

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Oh shit, I just realized I'll have haste on COR/RDM....
    NO offense, but fuck cor.

    Self hasting and refreshing pld/rdm spamming uriel blade says wut

  13. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Speaking of HQ staves.... SE said they may merge the staves together via Synergy.
    Smns have it was sorta a joke about how people make fun of how they are used so much. Only jobs that use them 100% of the time is blm and sch(I think?). outside that bard does have a *alt* and they are really only used for debuffs.

    I would get one for my blm if they did ~_~; it sucks that I have my smn staff that saves me invo for other gear swaps, but my blm is the one that needs it the most and still has to lug around all of them.

  14. #114
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    This sounds like the worst thing SE implanted to game to date.
    No use to speculate about it all really till we know how it works, but it sounds very frustrating.

  15. #115
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    So, finally, a legit AV kill is in the works?

  16. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    This is just one hypothetical example out of the dozens of possibilities. The only way I foresee this change being successful is if they make levels above 75 give a negligible stat/skill increase and don't change the xp/mob we get very much. If they don't, here's a convenient list of places you won't be able to xp after level 80:
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Areas


    I guess my main logistical concern is that ^. We're looking at a minimum of about 108 merit points worth of xp per job to get to 99, when it's 6 years into the game and everyone has multiple 75s. Even at 25k/hr, that's over 40 hours of xping per job to 99 from 75. We're looking at about 25000 hours of 25k/hr parties per server to let people get their 75s to 99 (40hours per 75*4,000 "75s to 99"/6 people per party). You can level Sync down and kill Colibris and Mamool for a while, but eventually people will ding and you'll all be forced to join everyone else fighting for repops in the new zones they add or fighting for repops in Korroloka.
    You do realize that the new expansions are coming out alongside the level cap increases this year, right? They're adding new zones to compensate for our level growth.

    Also with the level cap restriction on CoP zones being removed, and the zones themselves being tweaked, SE is trying to avoid that problem.

  17. #117
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    All people see is grinding for 24 levels and the chance their gear will become obsolete, hence the QQ. They forgot to notice the add-ons and new zones that will be added.

  18. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hookah View Post
    NO offense, but fuck cor.

    Self hasting and refreshing pld/rdm spamming uriel blade says wut
    lol, good point. But this means I actually have to work more on COR D:

  19. #119
    The 69th Donor
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Grinding wasn't exactly a fun part of the game, nor was farming for days on end until I could afford Leet Piece of Gear I'm Gimp Without. Yeah, that's great they're gonna add new stuff but for people who (like me) were very happy with their character's progress and all of the work they'd put into it, this will rub them the wrong way.

    Count me in the "Glad I Quit" club.

  20. #120
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    This means everyone will have to work more! I'm not sure the players are ready for it.

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