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  1. #101
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    If they are gonna add Martial arts traits, MNK will be swinging quite often. Perhaps they tested this with full haste gear and 2 more martial arts levels and found that a MNK99 gets TP quite fast, But even with subtle blow, mobs are fed so much TP that it becomes a danger to everyone. Against Chariots and other TP sensitive mobs, MNKs were better suited for long fights. If they chose to give MNK even greater DPS via Martial Arts traits, and I suspect they will have 2 more from 76-99, acc and subtle blow are gonna be pretty nice.

    Do you really want to see a MNK, with almost full time Hundred Fists, pound the side of a Goblin's head so he throws bombs every 6 seconds? This falls in line with what MNK has been for the last 4 years, a glamorless DPS machine. With everyone leveling up 76-99, you'll welcome MNKs to xppts because of solid DPS, and disproportionately low TP feed. Let the SAM get the big WS numbers, who cares. MNK is a workhorse, and usually the second highest threat after the Tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Turban > 5%
    Goliard body > 4%
    PUP relic Hands > 3%
    Usu Legs > 3%
    Usu feet > 2%
    V belt > 6%

    I think.
    No V Belt, would have to use Ninurta's. Which is awful. At least PUP can use Promptitude for those without Usukane.

    Could potentially /DRG for 5% though. That would put you at 26% with swift.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scritch View Post
    No V Belt, would have to use Ninurta's. Which is awful. At least PUP can use Enkidu for those without Usukane.

    Could potentially /DRG for 5% though. That would put you at 26% with swift.
    fixed that for you

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosius View Post
    If they are gonna add Martial arts traits, MNK will be swinging quite often. Perhaps they tested this with full haste gear and 2 more martial arts levels and found that a MNK99 gets TP quite fast, But even with subtle blow, mobs are fed so much TP that it becomes a danger to everyone. Against Chariots and other TP sensitive mobs, MNKs were better suited for long fights. If they chose to give MNK even greater DPS via Martial Arts traits, and I suspect they will have 2 more from 76-99, acc and subtle blow are gonna be pretty nice.

    Do you really want to see a MNK, with almost full time Hundred Fists, pound the side of a Goblin's head so he throws bombs every 6 seconds? This falls in line with what MNK has been for the last 4 years, a glamorless DPS machine. With everyone leveling up 76-99, you'll welcome MNKs to xppts because of solid DPS, and disproportionately low TP feed. Let the SAM get the big WS numbers, who cares. MNK is a workhorse, and usually the second highest threat after the Tank.
    Lol your point of view is basically saying, hey guys, don't use haste buffs, the faster you attack the more the mob will WS!

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    No pld or nin announcements.
    The PLD announcement was just that you had to level to 99. I'm not sure why you speak of NIN...I thought that job capped at 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    enkidu subligar have haste?
    /sigh, not legs

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Promptitude_Solea

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Enkidu%27s_Leggings

    Get it?

  7. #107
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    Lol your point of view is basically saying, hey guys, don't use haste buffs, the faster you attack the more the mob will WS!
    The point is to USE the haste buffs, and feed less TP over time. Load up the Haste like crazy, attain a nearly hundred fist speed, and still give the mob the same TP as a GA WAR.

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beave View Post
    The PLD announcement was just that you had to level to 99. I'm not sure why you speak of NIN...I thought that job capped at 50.
    Nin and Mnk need the most love out of all the jobs right about now. ; ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Nin and Mnk need the most love out of all the jobs right about now. ; ;
    In all reality, with the eventual new cap of 99 almost all of the jobs will need help. I'm mainly concerned with the treatment of salv gears and relics thought. Also hoping SE doesn't adjust levels of current HNM except PW/AV. I'd love to see what would happen when 1-2 people could solo/duo aery, kb, tia, etc.

    I think it's going to be trouble for linkshells as a whole at the beginning, if they are trying to dive right into new content. I foresee a shell having say 19 active members, of which 15 want to cap out their sams first, no one wanting to level up jobs they hate having at 75 now, etc.

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    At least one dual wield trait is probably gonna be snuck in there and if better haste gear comes about then up to 55% dual wield with capped haste should be interesting to say the least not even factoring in possible magic haste upgrades.
    Essentially nin is gonna manage to get 2 kinds of haste at decent/high levels at once albiet in mutually exclusive forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Nin and Mnk need the most love out of all the jobs right about now. ; ;
    High damage shuriken WSs, at least one god damned inherent damaging JA, and a more reliable WS than our lvl 60 blade Jin would fix Nin.

    As for Mnk.. fix footwork for HNMs, and stop giving us JAs that penalize our damage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    High damage shuriken WSs, at least one god damned inherent damaging JA, and a more reliable WS than our lvl 60 blade Jin would fix Nin.

    As for Mnk.. fix footwork for HNMs, and stop giving us JAs that penalize our damage..
    They should buff Ku, that WS is just to badass looking to be so weak. :/

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    Seriously a new "Steal" and Treasure Hunter update for THF?

    So sad =(

    won't stop me from loving it though, more power to TH whoring, hey maybe they'll actually tell us how it works!

  14. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Seriously a new "Steal" and Treasure Hunter update for THF?

    So sad =(

    won't stop me from loving it though, more power to TH whoring, hey maybe they'll actually tell us how it works!
    sub nin and get an extra dual wield trait + inin which might actually stand a chance of working for thf with the 20% emnity reduction vs the usual "GDI i grabbed hate again" while gaining 30% crit. The acc pushes thf towards just enough acc to cap during tp if you didn't already as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    sub nin and get an extra dual weirld train + inin which might actually stand a chance of working for thf with the 20% emnity reduction vs the usual "GDI i grabbed hate again"
    Every Mandau/X's Knife owner just jizzed at the prospect of Innin Evisceration!

  16. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Every Mandau/X's Knife owner just jizzed at the prospect of Innin Evisceration!
    SA Innin Evisceration, as well as the next level of dual wield to make those Eviscers come even faster. And don't forget, we can TA any melee behind the mob, because the PLD/NIN will have Yonin up and the mob wont even turn.

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    Sounds kinda like nin's gonna need something more for tanking/hate if /xibit is subbable in retrospect so hopefully it gets stronger as the nin levels or something happens that makes nin able to tank decently even if not a "amazing" as a pld. Siblt blow up the ass to the point that they give less tp than a 2h DD would make things interesting.
    Or conversely SE could make actual GOOD san spells for nin and they could sub blm for stun+ San nuke for hate.

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    I like how the new SMN BP relies on remaining MP when Astral Flow Blood Pacts nuke all of your MP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosius View Post
    Do you really want to see a MNK, with almost full time Hundred Fists, pound the side of a Goblin's head so he throws bombs every 6 seconds?
    Damn right I do. Maybe if I got a few more Martial Arts traits, I might appreciate something that gimps my weapon skill damage and TP gain and lets me SUBTLE BLOW FUCK YEAH the mob even better.

    I mean, fuck, all I ever really (realistically) wanted for MNK was TP on counterattacks and for Footwork to be considered a two-handed weapon. SE can't even deliver that much, when they can deliver MNK-breakingly powerful updates to PUP. I think full-time Hundred Fisting a goblin so he throws bombs every 6 seconds would be a pretty good improvement overall.

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