March Version Update Job Adjustments

[ronin sparthos]

QFT^^

COR would still be wiffing Slug even with A skill ._.

Anywho, If the puppet defense patch is anywhere as good as bumping PUP from C- skill to A skill then PUP just got pretty much all it could ask for.

The 20min Activate timer wouldn't be too bad if the automaton had some serious innate damage taken -%.

There really should be no reason to fret about AOEs in an exp party/event on a job that has a pet so crucial to the overall damage but before this patch, that is exactly what most PUPs had to worry about.

The puppet shouldn't be invincible but it should be damn well more durable than the player and subject to a ton of punishment.

[Ninjiz]

Base damage increase should be around +8, at least in my case (merits and faith). For others it should be ~7?
Considering Stringing Pummel ALREADY dose a very nice damage... you never know what could happen with +8ish and + 70ish attack (and + what, 60ish accuracy?)
Seems like a big boost to me. Won't "break" the WS of course, but it will be a nice boost.
Anyway, before I get misunderstood even more, I was NOT advocating a gimping of Stringing Pummel! I'm actually hoping SE will not, but you know how things go with SE... Guess I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to tweak something with SP.

Hmmm I'm not sure if it's a pure 8 dmg tho. Currently pup can get it's higher dmg tier at about 255ish right? With the next tier being at like 264 which pup can't reach "yet". That's with merits, faith, and h2h+10 from oberons as without all that you're stuck at 225. So are there really 8 extra dmg tiers between 255 and 300?

At base the difference between 225 and 276 is 51. Which if I understand should be somewhere between 41-45 acc and attack? Where is the 70iah attk and 60ish acc coming from?

[Sechs]

So are there really 8 extra dmg tiers between 255 and 300?

Yeah I miscalculated, been too fast. It's gonna be 4-5 onry, same for att and acc which will be in the range of 40ish-50ish and not ~70, sorry about that, been too hasty.

[Ninjiz]

Yea probably won't be too far off from some pup swinging a pair of Shenlongs currently. But minus 1-2 dmg.

[Malacite]

Please SE, please give us an H.Q. Slime Jug. Maybe a Scorpion too.


And I do believe MNK just got skullfucked by this update. Hi2u A rank Stringing Pummel and Armor Piercer in meripo...


... in MNK's defense, they are going to have SO much HP @ 99 it won't be funny >_>


... Oh Lord I just realized that Kraken DRK is about to become even more ridiculous...

[seiji]

Please SE, please give us an H.Q. Slime Jug. Maybe a Scorpion too.


And I do believe MNK just got skullfucked by this update. Hi2u A rank Stringing Pummel and Armor Piercer in meripo...


... in MNK's defense, they are going to have SO much HP @ 99 it won't be funny >_>


... Oh Lord I just realized that Kraken DRK is about to become even more ridiculous...

incomming magian moogle augmented KC with acc++ and HP+++
@lvl99 the gap from lower skill willbe huge, need a lot of acc

[jimbobsonofgod]

I'm going to call you can only Magian level 75 gear.


(here is to hoping).

[Malacite]

Accuracy doesn't matter because any shell with a brain won't let their KC DRKs zerg without a THF using Feint on the target.

[Crosius]

I'm going to call you can only Magian level 75 gear.

That would mean you coudn't augment 73 Abj. gear. I hope you can augment "All Jobs" fishing gear. Add god gear stats and 25% haste. Allows players to work hard on magian quests and make anything they find aesthetically pleasing to be their personal 99 gear. If you really like running around in your 100+3 craft apron, why not make that your 5% haste body.

[EternalSnow]

my friend said it was mentioned that sam was getting some new ws or something. Is that true? I think it's not true.. I didn't see anything or anyone talking about it

[seiji]

my friend said it was mentioned that sam was getting some new ws or something. Is that true? I think it's not true.. I didn't see anything or anyone talking about it

Among the new rewards will be formidable weapons that allow the wielder to employ devastating weapon skills formerly exclusive to certain Campaign NPCs.

(dont pay attention dont know if any GK ws)

+ new WS for all job whith higher lvl cap (not march update

need a good multihit/crit/high secondary/ftp mod to beat Gekko

[Scritch]

Arrow of Apathy: Cone Shaped Archery
Cruel Respite: Drains HP Sword
Prominance: AoE Fire damage Sword
Spine Chiller: AoE Ice Damage and Terror Great Sword
Uriel Blade: Aoe Light Sword
Ianuki: AoE Knockback Great Katana
Napalm Tomahawk: AoE Ranged damage Axe
Soulfetter Arrow: Frontal Cone Archery
Leonine Legfall: 10' cone knockback H2H
Glory Slash: AoE Damage Sword
Death Kneel: Doom (lol) Staff
Tartarus Topor: AoE Sleep and Magic Evasion Down Staff
Bloody Quarrel: Drain Marksmanship
Bear Killer: Damage?(wiki didn't list anything) H2H
Warden of Terror: Another AoE Terror + Damage Great Sword


List of all the Campaign-NPC specific WSs I could find. None of them really look that great, since most of them are AoE.

[Shin Volcano]

Of all the changes, I like the PUP one the least...

And PUP is one of my two fully merited jobs...along with MNK.

Problem is this completely breaks PUP damage as I'm sure everyone knows. Even a move to B rank would have been huge but still left MNK on top. Monk already trails most DD jobs in general, Footwork *cough* not withstanding, and a PUP + automaton could already outdamage my monk in any situation where the life of the puppet wasn't in danger. But the whole "lolpup" thing meant that most people didn't realize how powerful a properly managed puppet was (of course, finding someone who has top of the line gear for PUP is fairly rare, too).

So, man. idk. I love PUP. It's my only job that *averages* 6-7k xp per campaign battle, due to the amount of mobs I can demolish...and it's my favorite underdog job by far, the job I started doing salvage so I could gear it properly, the job I paid a taruload of money to get Hades Sainti +1s for...

I love it to death, but this just trivializes my monk so much I don't think it's such a good idea.

Keep in mind, PUP cannot equip Black Belt. which alone makes a huge difference for MNK.

[Destinye]

Arrow of Apathy: Cone Shaped Archery
Cruel Respite: Drains HP Sword
Prominance: AoE Fire damage Sword
Spine Chiller: AoE Ice Damage and Terror Great Sword
Uriel Blade: Aoe Light Sword
Ianuki: AoE Knockback Great Katana
Napalm Tomahawk: AoE Ranged damage Axe
Soulfetter Arrow: Frontal Cone Archery
Leonine Legfall: 10' cone knockback H2H
Glory Slash: AoE Damage Sword
Death Kneel: Doom (lol) Staff
Tartarus Topor: AoE Sleep and Magic Evasion Down Staff
Bloody Quarrel: Drain Marksmanship
Bear Killer: Damage?(wiki didn't list anything) H2H
Warden of Terror: Another AoE Terror + Damage Great Sword


List of all the Campaign-NPC specific WSs I could find. None of them really look that great, since most of them are AoE.

There's also the chance like everything else that goes from NPC > Player it will be adjusted just look at Blue magic >.>

[Miroku_Asura]

Arrow of Apathy: Cone Shaped Archery
Cruel Respite: Drains HP Sword
Prominance: AoE Fire damage Sword
Spine Chiller: AoE Ice Damage and Terror Great Sword
Uriel Blade: Aoe Light Sword
Ianuki: AoE Knockback Great Katana
Napalm Tomahawk: AoE Ranged damage Axe
Soulfetter Arrow: Frontal Cone Archery
Leonine Legfall: 10' cone knockback H2H
Glory Slash: AoE Damage Sword
Death Kneel: Doom (lol) Staff
Tartarus Topor: AoE Sleep and Magic Evasion Down Staff
Bloody Quarrel: Drain Marksmanship
Bear Killer: Damage?(wiki didn't list anything) H2H
Warden of Terror: Another AoE Terror + Damage Great Sword


List of all the Campaign-NPC specific WSs I could find. None of them really look that great, since most of them are AoE.

Needz moar club ws

[ringthree]

Needz moar club ws

Pretty sure the Sandy Elvaan with Aegis uses a Morganstern type club, but I don't know if they have a specific WS.

[Rocl]

Pretty sure the Sandy Elvaan with Aegis uses a Morganstern type club, but I don't know if they have a specific WS.

I don't think Virgaut has a signature move.

URIEL BLADE LETS GO I NEED TO DO 1200 DMG AOE SWORD WS ASAP

It'll do that much damage when my RDM is 99 trust me

[Shalafi]

Keep in mind, PUP cannot equip Black Belt. which alone makes a huge difference for MNK.

But they can equip lolSash which is a boost to the existing Swift belt (although still not BB); as long as AV doesn't scale with the lvl99 increase it should be more attainable.

[Shalafi]

Keep in mind, PUP cannot equip Black Belt. which alone makes a huge difference for MNK.

I wonder if they will make these like WSNMs, quested level 90 or something.

[pchan]

But they can equip lolSash which is a boost to the existing Swift belt (although still not BB); as long as AV doesn't scale with the lvl99 increase it should be more attainable.

Can equip Fettle belt too, for haste + 5%. PUP can have as much haste as a SAM basically.