FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[nekoshoonen]

thanks guys for the pm.

[Purrrfect]

/speculation
heavy trammel = trammel in a cone or line similar to doomspike

[Vuitton]

The level 0 bunnies in Ronfaure are more at fault of min-maxing than any parser ever.

So much truth to this. I always made sure to get HQ everything when leveling a new job so I could do a few more damage to the bunnies and take a few less damage myself, because those bunnies could murder you if you weren't careful. Half the stuff in Ronfaure I avoided at all costs like the funguar because of their poison and paralyze because even with all HQ gear it was a gamble if you'd actually win....

I was mix-maxing levels 1 - 10 more than I did anytime else until 75.

[Purrrfect]

So much truth to this. I always made sure to get HQ everything when leveling a new job so I could do a few more damage to the bunnies and take a few less damage myself, because those bunnies could murder you if you weren't careful. Half the stuff in Ronfaure I avoided at all costs like the funguar because of their poison and paralyze because even with all HQ gear it was a gamble if you'd actually win....

I was mix-maxing levels 1 - 10 more than I did anytime else until 75.

lol

I laugh, because I'm also guilty. ;;

[Cairthenn]

Pretty sure he's not going to exclude archer for no reason.

Indeed. Archer is up.

[LD]

This ability list would be nice plz

[Azurewrath]

Thanks man.

Now, for me to choose.. Thaumaturge, Archer, or Lancer..

[iceynutz69]

Indeed. Archer is up.

You got the spell list and abilities from dat mining?

[Cairthenn]

You got the spell list and abilities from dat mining?

Yes. This is why some may not be correct or organized properly. It's nowhere near a comprehensive list. Names aren't even paired with the description, they're just (normally) in proximity, and you have to infer what goes where.

[Fanfon]

I love you all

[vrumpt]

music aside, there is one thing thats been eating me in the back of the head this entire time.

A gamepad is recommended, but not required to play the game.

this really has me worried. If they don't make it standard WASD + mouse as default PC controls this game is going to flop. Nobody is going to buy a game where a gamepad is required to have any kind of fun or make any kind of real progress. Most of us don't have issues with this because more likely we all have a gamepad, but for an MMO of this generation, that quoted line above just is not good.

[Destinye]

music aside, there is one thing thats been eating me in the back of the head this entire time.



this really has me worried. If they don't make it standard WASD + mouse as default PC controls this game is going to flop. Nobody is going to buy a game where a gamepad is required to have any kind of fun or make any kind of real progress. Most of us don't have issues with this because more likely we all have a gamepad, but for an MMO of this generation, that quoted line above just is not good.

A game will not flop because its designed to use a gamepad as well..if it's not popular in America oh well I suppose lol.

Most MMOs are designed ONLY with WASD because its not designed to ALSO be on a game console.

[Kirb]

So much truth to this. I always made sure to get HQ everything when leveling a new job so I could do a few more damage to the bunnies and take a few less damage myself, because those bunnies could murder you if you weren't careful. Half the stuff in Ronfaure I avoided at all costs like the funguar because of their poison and paralyze because even with all HQ gear it was a gamble if you'd actually win....

I was mix-maxing levels 1 - 10 more than I did anytime else until 75.

I think he actually meant that the level 0 bunnies made perfect test subjects for damage sampling, and were in a way the sort of precursor to parsers. And that, I didn't mind.

If they don't make it standard WASD + mouse as default PC controls this game is going to flop. Nobody is going to buy a game where a gamepad is required to have any kind of fun or make any kind of real progress. Most of us don't have issues with this because more likely we all have a gamepad, but for an MMO of this generation, that quoted line above just is not good.

I'm hoping they keep it the same keyboard control scheme as XI, really. Out of all the MMOs I've played, I liked the numpad navigation the best. Or if they don't, at least have two control schemes that are selectable.

[Satyr]

sorry but I saw how Utmasu was controlling the game at gamescon and he was usiong the similar controls to FFXI, although they still consider it best with a controller, which is great I used to map out my xbox360 controller to play Warhammer Online although it was more difficult that playing with keyboad and mouse it was relaxing and was a lot more fun

[vrumpt]

A game will not flop because its designed to use a gamepad as well..if it's not popular in America oh well I suppose lol.

Most MMOs are designed ONLY with WASD because its not designed to ALSO be on a game console.

this lies the problem. My point was that it is suggested by that recommendation the game is designed around the gamepad, with WASD as a possibility for those that want it. This if not changed will leave FFXIV grounded.

[Lenus]

Awhile ago in standard there was a poll seeing how much of BG population would rather use keyboard/game pad. I believe it almost came down to a 50/50 result would have to do a search for it. For FFXI mind you not 14. A lot used both interchangeably too.

Personally I rather use controller and was really glad to see the config for it in the alpha folder and was happy to see it actually recognize the 360 wireless controllers L/R trigger buttons where ffxi did not.

[solracht]

this really has me worried. If they don't make it standard WASD + mouse as default PC controls this game is going to flop. Nobody is going to buy a game where a gamepad is required to have any kind of fun or make any kind of real progress. Most of us don't have issues with this because more likely we all have a gamepad, but for an MMO of this generation, that quoted line above just is not good.

Calm down. You can play FFXI without a gamepad, it doesn't use the standard WASD + mouse, and you can definitely have fun and make real progress with these controls. I'm willing to bet a "gamepad recomended" line appears somewhere in the FFXI manual too.

No idea how the general feeling over this matter is, but If I had to choose, I'd pick the FFXI PC controls over WASD+mouse anyday. I hate point and click for targetting.

[Jaxzer]

Still unable to let the client start the dl... LOL...

Did you manage to get the installer to work?

[vrumpt]

Awhile ago in standard there was a poll seeing how much of BG population would rather use keyboard/game pad. I believe it almost came down to a 50/50 result would have to do a search for it. For FFXI mind you not 14. A lot used both interchangeably too.

Personally I rather use controller and was really glad to see the config for it in the alpha folder and was happy to see it actually recognize the 360 wireless controllers L/R trigger buttons where ffxi did not.

thats great for ffxi, but ffxi was designed around the ps2 originally.

It's bad business to make WASD a turn off, especially for a game that is supposed to compete with Cataclysm. We'll know tomorrow how the game feels with WASD, hopefully it will boil down to personal preference.

[Katlan]

Anybody else having issues w/ the patcher error'ing out? DL just fine, maybe its because I'm playing Aion in the background, but I get random error msg's. Window7 64bit