FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[Celeras]

Wow wtf, shut up already. WASD will work just fine.

[mai ikari]

Anybody else having issues w/ the patcher error'ing out? DL just fine, maybe its because I'm playing Aion in the background, but I get random error msg's. Window7 64bit

Assuming you're getting Error *5 digit numbers*, keep trying. It's an issue with their torrent client. Took me a good 4 tries to install, it downloaded more missing files each time.

[sruon]

the patcher is a real pussy if you're using more RAM than it wants to, close everything (incl. antivirus) and it should complete easily.

[Arelian]

I'm curious why people that didn't get in the alpha/beta are worrying about downloading the client. o.o

[Azurewrath]

PS2/PS3 controller was always way more comfortable to play with anyways, and I had better reflexes with it than anybody I knew who used keyboard, with stuns and whatnot.

Controller is great, anyone who uses keyboard is missing out.

[Katlan]

I'm curious why people that didn't get in the alpha/beta are worrying about downloading the client. o.o

because some of us have friends in the alpha that will let us play ?

and thanks for the patcher tips, will do that later then

Controller is great, anyone who uses keyboard is missing out.

I swore by my 360 controller for FFXI (PC), and i loved it.

[Ezek]

PS2/PS3 controller was always way more comfortable to play with anyways, and I had better reflexes with it than anybody I knew who used keyboard, with stuns and whatnot.

Controller is great, anyone who uses keyboard is missing out.

I pretty much used a controller 24/7 while on my melee DD jobs. RDM, however, I spent most of my time on the keyboard mainly because I typed a large majority of my spells pells thanks to spellcast alias. In any case, FFXI always felt sorta "clunky" using a controller (well, in general I guess). I like being able to mouse turn and whatnot versus holding down R2 on my gamepad to slowly rotate my camera.

[Lenus]

right analog to control/move the camera >.>

[Lucavi]

No one, including me, expects people to take down major bosses their first few times. Even with those mods, it's very rare for raiders to take down a boss their very first try. And there are plenty of people out there that don't use combat mods. It's kinda pathetic how raiding guilds require people to have 'em.

It really is another blunder by Blizzard. Don't get me wrong, giving players the ability to create add ons is a great thing, but it's obviously started revolving around the add ons themselves in the last few years. In fact, some boss fights seem plain impossible without them. That's a pretty poor design.

That's not really where I was going with my post. FFXI really didn't have a need for addons outside of macro-swapping and Tparty, because the game was pretty damned simple. Stun the AOE or one-shotting moves, kite the boss if its supposed to be kited, and nuke the shit of it with either Sam WSes, Rng arrows, KC drks, or Blm spells. This worked for at least three-quarters of the entire game's bosses.

There are quite a few fights in WOW where if everyone isn't moving during the fight, the fight will be over quickly. Not all of them are even hard, but I'd love to see a classic FFXI player who has never touched WoW have fun with Rotface or Professor Putricide. It would be completely out of the norm for them.

WoW had more of a need for mods like Deadly Boss Mods because bosses actually used a lot of moves, and had different strats and phases to them. Even if you go old school in both games: look at bosses like Suzaku and Byakko, then compare them to Instructor Razuvious and the Grand Widow. No comparison, even those two examples are nowhere near as taxing as Putricide or Sindragosa.

With FFXIV moving towards fighting groups of mobs and an emphasis on mobility in combat, as opposed to FFXI's concept of only moving from camp to camp, or following on the asscheeks of a kited Kirin, perhaps there will be more of a concrete need for a mod or a system that eventually explains all of the moves a boss has, and what it does throughout each phase.

[Ezek]

right analog to control/move the camera >.>

Which still rotated slow as fuck =( In all honesty, all I wanted was a simple command to flip my camera view so that I could instantly see what was behind me.

[Cairthenn]

Anybody else having issues w/ the patcher error'ing out? DL just fine, maybe its because I'm playing Aion in the background, but I get random error msg's. Window7 64bit

I had to close both Photoshop and Dreamveaver before I could get the installer to work.

In other news, my friend found a luck stat and both Titan and Ifrit, but no other avatars. Speculate away.

[Khamsin]

I had to close both Photoshop and Dreamveaver before I could get the installer to work.

You mean, Photoshop and Notepad? (or UltraEdit)

[sruon]

Notepad++

[SephYuyX]

Cair, going to PM you a up to date manual to add to your site in awhile.

[Cairthenn]

You mean, Photoshop and Notepad? (or UltraEdit)

Penchant for adobe programs.

[iceynutz69]

Notepad++

Win

[Azurewrath]

Cairthenn, check your PMs

[Azurewrath]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/766/1270685984200.jpg

Old? Real? Any more?

[Fanfon]

If it's real, I hope that's alpha-only graphics. It looks horrible

[Azurewrath]

There's a few more boring pictures of zoomed in chat boxes with Japanese writing, and they all seem to be over top of old screenshots. I think the background of that image posted above is an actual screenshot, so it's very possibly something some bored person photoshopped up