FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[darkscion0]

But that doesn't take into affect the effort gauge

Which is why I'd lean towards #2. In that the action bar probably charges first and after it fills the effects gauge chargers after. Which would also not allow for skill queuing.

[inferknite]

you mean they're saying there will be more than the 5 races now avalible in the final game?
or that currently you can only play as 3 out of 5 races for alpha or something?

[Naos]

you mean they're saying there will be more than the 5 races now avalible in the final game?
or that currently you can only play as 3 out of 5 races for alpha or something?

Mith and... Elv Male? Iirc are currently not available for alpha.

[vrumpt]

you mean they're saying there will be more than the 5 races now avalible in the final game?
or that currently you can only play as 3 out of 5 races for alpha or something?

Yes.

[Purrrfect]

you mean they're saying there will be more than the 5 races now avalible in the final game?
or that currently you can only play as 3 out of 5 races for alpha or something?

4 out of 5 currently with some gneder limits as well.

[Rokku]

can someone confirm if the character creator is superior to Aion?

Why would you even ask that? It's an alpha and it's already been noted multiple times that the currently available character creator is missing tons of features in it's current state.

[Jinko]

So do we have no European front man to get us some video.... phhsst pussies..

[Alderaan]

Both.

You can move the Send/Recieve thingy, btw. Along with everything else.

That makes me happy. I like everything as far to the bottom as possible and out of the way of my character.

[inferknite]

Is it true these alphas are in 4 hour intervals? Any clue when the next one is?

[Biggie]

Is it true these alphas are in 4 hour intervals? Any clue when the next one is?

Atleast read some of the thread before posting, and yes 4 hour untervals, think the NA starts in 9 hours or so.

[Skeeterxi]

Really hope I don't have to keyboard turn. I don't think I could transition back to FFXIs all keyboard control schemes after playing other Mouse turn + key binds way of controls, unless the game is really slow paced like FFXI but I hope its quicker and more responsive than that.

[Kaslo]

EU is going on right now, please read the thread.

[Omniyoji]

So do we have no European front man to get us some video.... phhsst pussies..

I think we have one guy or one guy that's getting it from someone else. Most likely they'll be uploading after they play tho ?_?

Why aren't Alpha testers having parties at their houses with friends that are recording, streaming, editing, SS'ing etc

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[Jinko]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1270747537

Japanese 14 video.

[Trigun]

I can't wait...

Spoiler: show

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...s/COOLFACE.gif
For these .dats to be converted for XI

[Foras]

Well, if you REALLY needed fast camera panning like a turn around, you could just step backward (not locked onto anything so you'd turn around) and toggle first person mode quickly. Probably faster than mouse pan unless games have sensitivity tweaks I didn't know about. Admittedly, this can get a bit disorienting if you're doing it a lot in rapid succession, but I don't think it was ever common. Plus I think some newer games might even have a camera reset button that just puts it to your back automatically, too.

But yeah, the ease of shifting from control to typing is also a factor. I'll never really understand how people can like controllers in this respect, as they have to find a place to sit the pad down out of the way of keys, make sure their hands are aligned properly so they don't type "jr;;p" instead of "hello", and then have to grab their controller again when finished. That's like a mandatory second or two of delay added onto play each time it happens. At least keyboard/mouse style lets your left hand serve as an anchor on the keyboard even if the right's going back and forth. Even then I'd still get some typing flubs from time to time.

Am I the only person who loved playing XI with a controller and wireless keyboard? I would plop down on my lazy boy and exp / merit party for hours. I never had an issue multitasking between controller and keyboard for chat. Even if I buy the PC version of this game, I'll still use a controller / keyboard combo. I just loved the freedom of movement a controller provided.

[Lazytowner]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1270747537

Japanese 14 video.

Why thank you very much!

[Lucavi]

Well, if you REALLY needed fast camera panning like a turn around, you could just step backward (not locked onto anything so you'd turn around) and toggle first person mode quickly. Probably faster than mouse pan unless games have sensitivity tweaks I didn't know about. Admittedly, this can get a bit disorienting if you're doing it a lot in rapid succession, but I don't think it was ever common. Plus I think some newer games might even have a camera reset button that just puts it to your back automatically, too.

But yeah, the ease of shifting from control to typing is also a factor. I'll never really understand how people can like controllers in this respect, as they have to find a place to sit the pad down out of the way of keys, make sure their hands are aligned properly so they don't type "jr;;p" instead of "hello", and then have to grab their controller again when finished. That's like a mandatory second or two of delay added onto play each time it happens. At least keyboard/mouse style lets your left hand serve as an anchor on the keyboard even if the right's going back and forth. Even then I'd still get some typing flubs from time to time.

Games have sensitivity tweaks. I remember that WoW in particular had quite a stigma against "keyboard turners", since their reaction times tended to be slower than those that used the mouse since they would have to turn to the face the target more slowly.

For example (and a rather extreme one, but a true one), if you jump and use the mouse to turn, you can spin your character around at least five or so times in a single leap. If you fully use the mouse, you may get about halfway around in one jump - maybe less. There's a huge difference there.

Also, for typing: I've never had a problem going from mouse to keyboard. I type quickly - about 120+ words a minute, and more when I'm angry as it causes me to focus (I type very quickly in e-arguments, haha), so I've never really had a problem in FFXI about having to switch from the mouse to the keyboard during a fight, especially since fights are slower-paced in FF and I was rarely on stun duty or abusing blink-tanking. I have to be a bit quicker in WoW, especially in PVP since you just never know when you're talking in /g chat and some rogue unstealths and opens up with some stuns on your ass.

My point is that to be successful on a whole, FFXIV should cater to the widest margin possible, and that includes the option for quick mouse turning and keyboard turning. Its not hard to implement, and just as you and I are on opposing sides on the issue, so too does everyone else have their own preference.

This game seems like its going to be much, much faster than FFXI, and with each job having so many skills, as opposed to FF having so few, especially pre-RoTZ, we're not going to be able to just macro each and every skill, so the speed of selecting skills quickly is going to be required. I'm pretty sure that they'll go with having both styles, especially if we'll ever have to click on hotbars on the screen.

[tonynot]

can you upload the video to rapidshare?

[Zeno McDohl]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1270747537

Japanese 14 video.

Hm http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html doesn't seem to work on it.