FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[Battlecat]

yeah... (X,Y) coordinates aren't exactly rocket surgery here. I for one am glad they switched to it... hell... might even help younger players learn (X,Y) before they're actually taught it giving them a leg up on a concept they'll be using in just about every math class all the way through at least early college classes.

[Seanr]

yeah... (X,Y) coordinates aren't exactly rocket surgery here. I for one am glad they switched to it... hell... might even help younger players learn (X,Y) before they're actually taught it giving them a leg up on a concept they'll be using in just about every math class all the way through at least early college classes.

no thanks...

[Lunarhawk]

Ban all players below age 16
16 is where people get less retarded right?
Or is it just when they start doing drugs and getting drunk

[Kalisa]

no thanks...

They're going to play whether we want them to or not.

On an unrelated note, question for testers: Can we swim? I was looking at Bronze Lake at the Northeast of the aforementioned map and it dawned on me that there are no land borders to walk around it. If so, is it a surface-only mechanic, or can we dive? If we can dive, is there a breath mechanic, or is there potential for some kind of epic sweeping underwater areas? I realize you may not be able to get that far in the alpha of course, but surely there have to be smaller lakes and ponds around.

I'm curious about movement in general, actually. I assume jumping is an no-go, because SE never lets us have any fun. How about swimming? Can we jump off of ledges a little more freely than in XI, where our fearless adventurers refused to chance a two-foot drop in so many places? Will we get hung up on random sticks, branches, torches, and stems? Does running directly into another player trigger a collision pause before you can run through them?

[Charismatic]

I doubt there is any swimming or jumping... we probably would have heard about them by now.

[Lunarhawk]

I don't see why there wouldn't be swimming

[Waraji]

Pretty sure no swimming was something they expressed would not be implemented. If this was meant ever or at retail, I can't recall word for word. Although I wouldn't Hold My Breath... ;D

[Ashton]

It's not about them being difficult, just personal preference. The non-cartesian coordinates seemed like a unique touch to me.

[Zeb]

I don't see why there wouldn't be swimming

Everyone knows black peoplegalkas can't swim.

[Waraji]

Everyone knows black peoplegalkas can't swim.

Yeah imagine running along the cliff in Qufim on Galka and falling off... It would be a sad sad day in XIV.

[Lazytowner]

Everyone knows black peoplegalkas can't swim.

And white people can't jump. SEE, SE HAS IT FIGURED OUT.

[Kalisa]

Yeah imagine running along the cliff in Qufim on Galka and falling off... It would be a sad sad day in XIV.

Well of course, the idea in a world where you can fall off of anything is to (a) make unintended jumps fatal and (b) have a way to climb back up from every other jump, regardless of what a pain in the ass it might be.

It's not out of the question to expect SE to block fatal jumps from us (i.e. off of Qufim) while allowing us a much wider range of perfectly safe jumps (i.e. going from Xarcabard -> Fei'Yin).

I'm just hoping the world feels more immersive when we interact with it, instead of breaking the fourth wall so often having me stop when I run into another character, get stuck on a rock, or auto-walk on the edge of a ledge and have to think "ugh, now I have to unstick my character" instead of "WHEEEEEE." I remember jumping off of some shit in WoW and having my stomach lurch from the drop despite playing on a shitty laptop screen.

[Kirb]

God damn, that is a big map. Region-sized, I like it.


I actually prefer the numerical x,y coordinates. We can be more precise with directions.

They're going to play whether we want them to or not.

Not if I have anything to do with it!



Sadly I don't.


And I swear to god, if this thread starts going into swimming/jumping/NDA again I will choke a bitch

[Lunarhawk]

God damn, that is a big map. Region-sized, I like it.

Did you notice how even though it's that big so far you only saw one of the supposed five city states on it.

[Cairthenn]

Well as much as you don't want it to, this thread isn't going to have any real info for about two more days.

[Kurokikaze]

God damn, that is a big map. Region-sized, I like it.




Not if I have anything to do with it!



Sadly I don't.


And I swear to god, if this thread starts going into swimming/jumping/NDA again I will choke a bitch

Agreed. I absolutely hated the WoW community cause it reminded me of the fags on XBL.

[Sign]

God damn, that is a big map. Region-sized, I like it.




Not if I have anything to do with it!



Sadly I don't.


And I swear to god, if this thread starts going into swimming/jumping/NDA again I will choke a bitch

I am sure there will be more than a few "Awesome a new FF game.... wait, this isn't at all like WoW! This game sucks!" type moments for a lot of people, which will thin out some of the retards hopefully.

[arus2001]

Man, if people have trouble with simple X,Y coordinate systems, cartesian X,Y,Z calculations like I used to deal with in HSpace would probably blow their mind. Funnily enough, though, XI did use Dist3D functions in determining distance between two objects, and consider frontal arcs for attacking and consideration of objects in between was likely done, too.

[Ashton]

Did you notice how even though it's that big so far you only saw one of the supposed five city states on it.

Huge world inc

[Cairthenn]

Also, they need to change the font used on maps; the "scrawled text" feeling is far too overdone.