FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[Hyan]

Its amazing you consider "fluff" what their competitors have included for over half a decade. I never know how to approach your posts, Hyan, because I always wind up wanting to strangle you through this monitor.

No wonder the competition (aside from Blizzard) always seems to fail.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it any less fluff than it is.

[levish]

can anyone check to see if forcing SLI or CrossFire works?

[mastamind]

Well, they do have a Refill ability, but I also fear this will get nerfed due to RMT exploiting it for gil.

If they are worried about rmt, they could easily make arrows created from the refill ability to be ex and not able to be sold to npc.

[zalasta]

Totally forgot that Cure in XIV is AoE. Well, as described by the data mining, no one has seen it in action yet.

No need for regen you get it when you are in passive, either that or they are saving those spells for a bard type.

In a long fight HoT is definitely needed. It is useful when your main heal is on cool down, not to mention it usually generate less hate and can conserve you more mp. Regardless, I would find it worrisome to only have one type of heal. Especially if all Cure spells, doesn't matter what level, share the same timer.

[Katoi]

thanks Kiarax!

[Kiarax]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2agksr7.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10z5mpi.jpg

[King Zuca]

What are you talking about? Archers carried short swords on them as a last ditch weapon should their position be overrun. Yes, even the fabled English archers with all their fancy shmancy range carried swords, because shit happens.

sure, but i'm willing to bet, an archers success rate with a short sword was mega fail, especialy against a soldier whose specialty was killing you up close and personal. I have never heard of such a thing, but then again i don't know everything, i would like to tho, so feel free to correct me :D

[Lucavi]

No wonder the competition (aside from Blizzard) always seems to fail.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it any less fluff than it is.

So you're all for a perfect system with zero interactivity and zero immersion? You seriously want a sequel to FFXI with updated models and a higher poly count? The only improvements you want, 7 years later, are to the battle and crafting systems?

Christ almighty.

[Alkar]

Totally forgot that Cure in XIV is AoE. Well, as described by the data mining, no one has seen it in action yet.



In a long fight HoT is definitely needed. It is useful when your main heal is on cool down, not to mention it usually generate less hate and can conserve you more mp. Regardless, I would find it worrisome to only have one type of heal. Especially if all Cure spells, doesn't matter what level, share the same timer.

It's also mentioned on every single FFXIV website that Cure and Fire are AoE so I doubt it's a typo.

[Gwynplaine]

It's interesting that enemy names are all in Japanese. Whereas in FFXI they're all in English. If it stays like this in the final game I wonder how that works. Unless there was a way to automatically translate the name using like a <t> command, it could make communication difficult.

[qpoiuwer]

So you're all for a perfect system with zero interactivity and zero immersion? You seriously want a sequel to FFXI with updated models and a higher poly count? The only improvements you want, 7 years later, are to the battle and crafting systems?

Christ almighty.

Personally, I'm fine without being able to sit down and stuff. I always find myself wondering why things like that even exist because it seems stupid to me. Different people want different things.

[Sinzfeldt]

So you're all for a perfect system with zero interactivity and zero immersion? You seriously want a sequel to FFXI with updated models and a higher poly count? The only improvements you want, 7 years later, are to the battle and crafting systems?

Christ almighty.

I'd like in game triple-triad/tetra master but we can't have it all, i'm not sure what's worse people complaining about jumping or you and your chairs.

[Zeno]

http://i39.tinypic.com/10z5mpi.jpg

Oh, that 1 is kick ass. Shaders are gonna look kewl

[Kirb]

Rather than implement fluff interaction with the world, they should polish the already existing animations instead. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing poorly done animations and then some damn "sit on a chair"-emotes all around the place.

That might be just me however.

EDIT: And we need seriously more combat images. Are the JP's doing nothing but looking at the scenery? Le sigh!

From what I've seen, the animations are already pretty solid. They've got some great followthrough and secondary motion. Even the lalafell running animation has been tweaked with more arm movement. They undoubtedly have a ton of work to do with the unavailable races though, so you're probably correct in thinking that the animators are busy getting the final passes done first.

I wouldn't mind being able to sit in chairs, (but it's also kind of lolsy to be so srs bsns about them.)
If it isn't in, when you get into the beta, start asking SE about implementing it by release or in a patch. Code and animation-wise, it wouldn't be too difficult.

It's interesting that enemy names are all in Japanese. Whereas in FFXI they're all in English. If it stays like this in the final game I wonder how that works. Unless there was a way to automatically translate the name using like a <t> command, it could make communication difficult.

Uh, I'm pretty sure that it won't be like that in the final release. Why would SE go through the trouble of having only English voice actors for all versions of the game, and then have monster names in hiragana?

[Hyan]

So you're all for a perfect system with zero interactivity and zero immersion? You seriously want a sequel to FFXI with updated models and a higher poly count? The only improvements you want, 7 years later, are to the battle and crafting systems?

Christ almighty.

Improvements to the Game, yes. I must be insane for asking for a better game, I know!

I could honestly care less about the improvements to the world. Although we'll probably see a better version of Sims when mog houses are revealed.

[Kiarax]

Improvements to the Game, yes. I must be insane for asking for a better game, I know!

Can lump me in with the crazy people. Don't give two shits about being able to sit in a chair, focus on the actual gameplay please.

http://i39.tinypic.com/a4nbbq.jpg

New Mithra are delicious, hated the XI design but they're great in XIV. Gonna be hard to pick a race this time.

[Jinko]

It's interesting that enemy names are all in Japanese. Whereas in FFXI they're all in English. If it stays like this in the final game I wonder how that works. Unless there was a way to automatically translate the name using like a <t> command, it could make communication difficult.

I guess monsters are actually allocated a number as some kind of tag and then when you link to that monster it will show the correctly translated name regardless of who you link it to. (will prob work for everything including armor/items etc)

If that makes sense :S

[Purplekjw]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2118940.jpg

Someone probably already said this, but I just got in and I'm browsing through the last few pages so...

HOLY CRAP! IT'S AN OGRE!

(How many people do you think will create a green Galka and call it Shrek?)

How do I do the spoiler thing?

[Hyan]

From what I've seen, the animations are already pretty solid. They've got some great followthrough and secondary motion. Even the lalafell running animation has been tweaked with more arm movement. They undoubtedly have a ton of work to do with the unavailable races though, so you're probably correct in thinking that the animators are busy getting the final passes done first.

Yeah, I'm content with what we've seen so far. I'm a bit concerned about the skill animations however. I hope they don't "water them down" just because there's so many of them this time around.

[Zeno]

I wouldn't emphasis too much on object interaction. I mean, I could care less if I can sit on a stool/chair or just stand and sit on floor. Sure, it would look nice, but it's something that won't break the game. I rather have SE work on more important things, like game mechanics, bugs, etc etc.