FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[Uzor]

The point was that neither game was a failure.

I don't understand what the discussion is about.

Yes, WoW is more popular than FFXI, but neither is a failure. As long as something has turned a profit, its a success.

[Shaskoru]

FFXI = for hardcore

WoW = for casual

"Same market".

Roger that, son.

I'm glad that's cleared up. Time investment = hardcore and anything else is casual. Wow was really casual back in the day, too! Good to know all of this information is finally being clarified.

[Odin'sLaw]

thats exactly what i said lol, just worded differently. i too think its dumb to force archer classes to have back-up weapons to get the job done. archers in the past in the real world didnt run out of arrows, to then run into battle with a knife or something. that would have been instant fail as soon as you see that big guy with the claymore coming for your face.

if the guy with the big ass claymore was at your face arrows or no arrows you'd be kinda fucked

[Tomino]

I wonder what FFXI % are in Japan. Also, what % FFXI users are japanese.

Would be funny to read all the NA/EU rants about the game being not like WoW when they're like 40% of the playerbase, or even less.


It would be like Blizzard screamin in panic because japanese players dislike pretty much everything about their muscular characters.

[dusted]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vvta51.jpg

I'm callin em Lady LaLa's from now on. Werk it she's a free betch baby~♫

[BRP]

The fuck. All those people in that picture and NOBODY is sitting in a chair? Can we please get a confirmation that chairs/benches in the game are fucking intractable?

So, thus far that we know, we have cutscene people leaning on railings and sitting on floors. I can't even see a chair or a stool in that CS. This is going to be another stand up/sit on dirty floor experience?

Really?

In that picture THERE ARE NO CHAIRS!

In the bar/tavern later on there a few people sitting on chairs.

[Hyan]

I'm glad that's cleared up. Time investment = hardcore and anything else is casual. Wow was really casual back in the day, too! Good to know all of this information is finally being clarified.

Wow wasn't really that big back in the day either. Subscriptions sure skyrocketed once they released it in China (which SE didn't do) and made it uber casual (which SE didn't do).

So for the type of game that FFXI is (not the same as WoW, I'm glad that's cleared up) it did well.

Even if you couldn't sit on a chair.

I'm amazed too, yeah.

[BRP]

Before you assholes get into it: Games can't be casual or "hardcore", only gamers. Casual and serious describe the way a person treats something.

You can be hardcore with anything. FFXI, WoW, baking, cleaning, etc etc.

[Kiarax]

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[Uzor]

Wow wasn't really that big back in the day either. Subscriptions sure skyrocketed once they released it in China (which SE didn't do) and made it uber casual (which SE didn't do).

So for the type of game that FFXI is (not the same as WoW, I'm glad that's cleared up) it did well.

Even if you couldn't sit on a chair.

I'm amazed too, yeah.

Not to remember how much commercials WoW did. Besides, Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo are larger titles in the Western world than Final Fantasy is, so Blizzard got free commercial through that.

Edit: Is it just me, or does the above screenshot picture a Galka wearing Errant/Mahatma Houppelande (sp?)?

[Hyan]

Before you assholes get into it: Games can't be casual or "hardcore", only gamers. Casual and serious describe the way a person treats something.

You can be hardcore with anything. FFXI, WoW, baking, cleaning, etc etc.

Okay, but I'd still say FFXI catered to one type of gamer more than the other.

EDIT: JAIANTO KURABU :O

[Zeno]

HULK HAPPY!!!!??

[Kirb]

That face is the best face

[BRP]

Okay, but I'd still say FFXI catered to one type of gamer more than the other.

EDIT: JAIANTO KURABU :O

FFXI catered to FFXI players. Among those players there are both casual and hardcore.

[Revenance]

I'm glad that's cleared up. Time investment = hardcore and anything else is casual. Wow was really casual back in the day, too! Good to know all of this information is finally being clarified.

Even back in Pre-BC WoW you didn't have to spend a lot of time to accomplish something. Save for end game raiding.

[Hyan]

FFXI catered to FFXI players. Among those players there are both casual and hardcore.

But which group is the majority?

[Jinko]

FFXI catered to FFXI players. Among those players there are both casual and hardcore.

You can't cater to FF11 players before they exsist

Besides SE don't listen to its userbase so its not like they catered to anyone apart from themselves.

[Kensaki]

You can't cater to FF11 players before they exsist

>>>>11<<<<

[Meko]

WoW obviously caters to a more casual player base. I look at it like this. In WoW you can play for 2 hours a night and progress without needing too much help whether it be gathering herbs/mats or questing etc. In FFXI, there is certainly a need for a group or at least another player to assist. While I enjoy both, I really dig the idea of being able to play an hour or two without needing another player if I can't grant that much time to my gaming that night.

[Kiarax]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2eulqwg.jpg

That colour sure is an eyesore.