FFXIV Closed Alpha/Beta Discussion (Cancelled for this week)

[Kenshiin]

A couple of questions. Was there a way to change your height in the character selection screen? I'm guess since all the pictures we've seen has everyone looking similar in body size, it's something that is either not in the game yet or something we wont be able to change. While I wish we could at least get the Small/Medium/Large choices again, I'm happy there's a chance we wont get tiny, ugly midgets running around.

In the status and gear window, what are the numbers in the parenthesis next to your stats? In one of the pictures it showed "Accuracy 5 (1)".

Also, I noticed that the skills have an action cost requirement. I wonder if it's possible that bigger spells will require more slots, similar to what FFXIII did.

[SkullRobot]

i dont know man, how old is your ps3? that game made my brain explode. best lookin game evar? gets my vote. but anyways, yea i dont know why the didnt make FFXIII seemless (dont even get me started on this game, i got a lot of complaints.)

and i wonder just how "seamless" FFXIV really is. will it be the whole game world is seamless (sans instances, cutscenes, etc.), or will it just be major regions? who knows.

my PS3 is a big 40gig version. Don't get me wrong, I loved GoW3 and thought it was amazing but I got hit with a couple "infinite loading" sections and almost always the background music/voice would skip around. Starting to wonder if I shouldn't buy a new PS3 before FFXIV comes out....

[qpoiuwer]

It means you need rank 8 to equip it...

Why doesn't it just say Rank 8 then?

[Jinko]

Yes you can change your heightin the character creation its not dramatically different though.

I'm happy there's a chance we wont get tiny, ugly midgets running around.

Points to the Lalafell.

Why doesn't it just say Rank 8 then?

:S same thing isn't it ?

[qpoiuwer]

Yes you can change your heightin the character creation its not dramatically different though.



Points to the Lalafell.



:S same thing isn't it ?

~ usually implies some variability.

[loyaltrekie]

my ps3 can do just about anything your pc can do.

You best be trolling'

[Eisen]

This is what I have to say about graphics....to be honest you can have the most graphically amazing game ever and it can still suck shit. I played Aion for maybe a month because back in the day it was super beautiful. I quickly found out though that the game play became pretty boring. XIV looks pretty good already and I have a feeling is going to play a whole lot better than most MMO's out today. People have played WoW for many years now and it is pretty dated graphically but people still play. So I wouldn't worry to much right now about the graphics, focus on the game play of XIV.

[levish]

Well if I remember correctly the human eye sees up to 60 frames per second which makes it the ideal FPS for a game. personally I think 30 FPS is just crappy and I probably wouldn't play FFXIV if it was 30 FPS. but thatd be just dumb if it was, like ^ said, it's a next gen MMO. Square Enix wouldnt be so stupid lol. maybe 30 FPS on the PS3 ver.

The eye doesn't see in fps but the front of your vision is much more sensitive to motion than peripheral vision.

Why I care: I find 30FPS animations terrible. 60FPS animations are decent

Yes, most people are sensitive to changes (negative in particular) in FPS and anything over 30FPS is probably passable but most people would prefer the fluidity of 60+ FPS animations.

my point being there shouldn't be any sort of FPS cap with any current game, if your computer is capable of 100+ FPS and you have one of those nifty new 120hz lcd monitors go for broke.

[Eisen]

A couple of questions. Was there a way to change your height in the character selection screen? I'm guess since all the pictures we've seen has everyone looking similar in body size, it's something that is either not in the game yet or something we wont be able to change. While I wish we could at least get the Small/Medium/Large choices again, I'm happy there's a chance we wont get tiny, ugly midgets running around.

In the status and gear window, what are the numbers in the parenthesis next to your stats? In one of the pictures it showed "Accuracy 5 (1)".

Also, I noticed that the skills have an action cost requirement. I wonder if it's possible that bigger spells will require more slots, similar to what FFXIII did.

1. They have already said they are going to overhaul the character creation system. I assume that height will be a factor and I think it's already in the alpha (Big, Medium, Small).

2. The number in ( ) is most likely a modifier from either a spell in effect or weapon equipped.

3. Haven't been able to verify but it looks like the higher level the spell/skill the more AP it takes. Makes sense at least.

[Eyedea-Seraph]

These images for ALPHA*** i think are pretty damn awesome, i believe a lot of people are compairing to single player console and this is an MMO, and as such will not push the envelope as much as a single player game. We all will need to interact with each other and the environment, not to say that it wont be a great visual experience but i think some of you set the bar/standard to high in this case for an mmo.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/692...0413210858.jpg

I can see why people are all in a twist about texture but they will depend more so on your setup pc wise and its capability, obviously upon the release of the full panel of textures also.
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7...0413203256.jpg


The images leaked already are pretty damn good imho.
Probs my have shot so far
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8762/w9ttlt.jpg

[King Zuca]

No I think you are over estimating the PS3



It's been over 18 months since I upgraded my PC and there is no way my PS3 could run some of the games I play at 1080p



They will have the same shaders most likely but I expect the PC to have better lighting and texture settings



That because FF11 and WoW use low resoution textures, hopefully FF14 will have option for both.

i see your point on everything except games your pc can run that your ps3 cant. what games might this be? i don't want to sound like a fanboy (although i looooooove my ps3), but i know a lot about the ps3 and so-so about pc's, so maybe there is a few games that cant be played on ps3, but aside from crysis, i seriously doubt it. look at uncharted 2 and GoW. easily the best looking games on the market (not to mention all the technical muscle they flex). i'd imagine your pc would need to be worth over a grand (wether built from the ground up, or bought that way) in upgrades to run those two games as smoothly.

i don't want to seem like im changing the thread topic, or ranting on about ps3 vs. pc. but its important to discuss this. and hey its a better topic then the fuckin "jump" topic lol.

[King Zuca]

These images for ALPHA*** i think are pretty damn awesome, i believe a lot of people are compairing to single player console and this is an MMO, and as such will not push the envelope as much as a single player game. We all will need to interact with each other and the environment, not to say that it wont be a great visual experience but i think some of you set the bar/standard to high in this case for an mmo.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/692...0413210858.jpg

I can see why people are all in a twist about texture but they will depend more so on your setup pc wise and its capability, obviously upon the release of the full panel of textures also.
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7...0413203256.jpg


The images leaked already are pretty damn good imho.
Probs my have shot so far
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8762/w9ttlt.jpg

i agree wit ya on the looks of the game. i think it looks phenominal, even in alpha stage. also people should take into account that not only are they making the game look good, but they are making the world almost, if not totaly seamless, which is a graphical feat on its own.

just thinking about how the rest of the game world is going to look, how bosses will look and the sheer scale of the game is getting me beyond excitement.

[Skeletor1278]

So last night's test was alot more "stable" than Thursdays.. Meaning, I wasn't kicked off at all, but only got to fight for maybe 10 minutes.. Which is entirely my fault, as I was determined to buy a new weapon and switch classes, just to see what it did.. Here's some random thoughts that may/may not of been covered..

I found A weapon shop.. However, it only had swords, axes, and hammers.. All three had a 0 level version, then 2 higher level versions.. The 0 version is buy able by any class.. Also, there were 2 shields, but neither started at 0, as level 5 or 6 was the lowest.. I didn't fight much, so I didn't get to buy a shield with my sword.. I did have a theory that maybe different cities had different starting weapons available? Someone found a level 18 pair of H2H in town, but no 0 version.. It's entirely possible that I just didn't find where all the other weapons are..

I switched from Archery to Sword classes.. My physical level was only 3, but my Archery was level 4, and my Sword class was 0.. When I switched, my HP stayed the same.. As did my stats I believe..

Unfortunately, when I left town, all the mobs were gone, so I never got to fight much.. The fighting I did get to do with Archery proved to be futile at the time.. Apparently, I ran out of arrows while fighting a mob.. Well, couple problems.. One, I couldn't re-equip more arrows, even though I had 99 in my inventory, during the fight.. So then my character just started one handed punching the mob.. This is very insignificant damage.. The mob proceeded to beat the shit out of me, as I couldn't kill it.. I died, and crumpled in a heap and dropped my bow on the ground.. I was able to equip arrows once I home pointed..

I got aggro'd at one point by a mob, but I didnt realize it at first.. He kind of ran past me, then turned around, ran up to my back and hit me..

Not sure if anyone plays with a gamepad or console controller on PC.. However, I've played FFXI for 7 years on my PS2 controller with USB port.. So I was pretty excited to see the option for gamepad in the config program that comes with alpha.. It works pretty well.. Basically everything you can do can be done with the ps2 controller.. My camera controls are inverted on the x-axis, and there's no option to flip, so I had to config the right joystick backwards for it to work the way I'm used to.. Also, there's no warning that you have the same button assigned to different tasks.. This proved very annoying the first night when I had the action command and camera view on the same button.. Everytime I went to click on a mob/ncp/player/do a skill/read through quest chats, my camera view would be zooming in and out.. But that's more of a bug than game play design.. At this point, i've got the controller configed perfectly and prolly will use it full time in this game too..

Good info. I'm glad to know it was playable with a gamepad since I'm probably gonna end up playing on PS3 than a PC.

Sorry if this has been covered already since this thread switches topics every 5mins, but how are the cost of arrows vs the amount of gil you've gotten so far? I understand not many players have been able to do much just yet, and the leves aren't working as intended. Just trying to develop *some* sort of idea of what the cost of an Archer is going to be since it's the class I'm most interested in so far.

[Eyedea-Seraph]

i see your point on everything except games your pc can run that your ps3 cant. what games might this be? i don't want to sound like a fanboy (although i looooooove my ps3), but i know a lot about the ps3 and so-so about pc's, so maybe there is a few games that cant be played on ps3, but aside from crysis, i seriously doubt it. look at uncharted 2 and GoW. easily the best looking games on the market (not to mention all the technical muscle they flex). i'd imagine your pc would need to be worth over a grand (wether built from the ground up, or bought that way) in upgrades to run those two games as smoothly.

i don't want to seem like im changing the thread topic, or ranting on about ps3 vs. pc. but its important to discuss this. and hey its a better topic then the fuckin "jump" topic lol.

the PS3 is a powerful system and wont have many issues playing this game (i believe coming from both side of the equation) I think my experience will be slightly better then my brothers on PS3 but more so because of the other things i can do while on PC, not too much visually, but still i do think that computer will refresh faster (pending on your rig) and that it will load more drawdistance then the ps3 can with the dated GPU (in comparison to whats out now for PC).

[Agito]

http://i40.tinypic.com/rbkuup.png
I like how the map layout is but damn, i can't even read it because of the font used.

[Loaar]

please tell me somebody on the alpha forums has made a thread about the map font. That shit is just inacceptable, needs to be changed to readable font

Ummm... you realise that the font isn't english right? That its in language of Eorzea? Someone has done a translation for the letters into english if you take the time to look for it.

Its not unreadable because of the font, its in another language.

Someone really needs to try Miner/Blacksmith. Like, does your physical level go up from crafting/mining?

In the alpha, SE has stated you can only get exp from killing mobs, nothing else, so no. Since they specifically mentioned this for the alpha test, its reasonable to assume that will change later on.

[Kiarax]

At least post the full size one if you're gonna repost the region map.

[Spira]

ffxivmaps.com gives a pretty good approximation of how much of the game the alpha offers, perhaps.

[Loaar]

ffxivmaps.com gives a pretty good approximation of how much of the game the alpha offers, perhaps.

Yeah, that looks pretty accurate so far from what I've seen.

Theres also the Eorzean alphabet there for you vrumpt.

[Eisen]

Do you think that is only 1/5th of the world? I know in Alpha they restricted access to a lot of areas.