VanaFest 2010 Wrap-Up (Via Elmer & Zam)

[Xno Kappa]

They mentioned new AF weapons so who knows. Otherwise, all this news is nothing but win to me. I might actually change job to BLU more then once a month on average now. :D

[Juravial]

All I know is, I've got bst leveled on both my characters, and...well...I just don't know if I can do that again, especially if I need like 3 mil exp to level to 99 bst.

Ooh ooh, also, maybe ranger afv2 weapon won't get tossed before I leave the zone, like the first one did (eh? what's this? low dmg low delay rng bow? /toss)

I swear to god if corsair afv2 gun looks like this:

Dmg:38 Delay:630 Ranged Accuracy: +5 Parrying skill +5

I just may hurt someone.

[newzarb]

- "3rd set of strongest weapons" i.e. enhancing Relics and Mythics into a new set of ultimate weapons.

I don't think anyone has looked to closely at this statement from Elmers write up. Relic is the first set of strongest weapons, and then Mythic was the second, its saying that by upgrading them via magian quests they will be the new third set of most powerful weapons. Also, since there is another category for weapons I would assume that there is better upgrades available only for relic/mythics. I'm not sure it could really be any clearer than that.

tl;dr... Relic/Mythic will still be top weapons at 99, atleast the ones that were actually good before...

That part of the summary isn't clear. Does this mean we won't be able to upgrade relics/mythics with the quests that will be released in March? Or will we and the quest for "3rd set of strongest weapons" is a totally different thing? I hope it's the 2nd solution. ^^

Anyway as a "3rd strongest GKT" they need to add Masamune!

[Meko]

I don't think any of it is that clear just yet. A lot of speculation swirling about this and that. I still can't wrap my head around raising the level cap that fast aside from the option of low manning stuff with 99's versus alliances of 75's. I can't imagine they'll scale everything as it would be pointless to raise the cap if they were simply going to scale it up.

Side note: With ToA came all of these 'burn' type parties to gain awesome XP. Do they revert back to the pre-ToA days for 75-99 a la Bibiki Bay?

[Elmer the Pointy]

That part of the summary isn't clear. Does this mean we won't be able to upgrade relics/mythics with the quests that will be released in March? Or will we and the quest for "3rd set of strongest weapons" is a totally different thing? I hope it's the 2nd solution. ^^

Anyway as a "3rd strongest GKT" they need to add Masamune!

They haven't fully clarified some of the Magian stuff beyond the basic weapon upgrade line. Even the title "3rd set of strongest weapons" was a tentative title they said.

[Ophannus]

I'd bet my money that current uncapped events will soon be "Level 75 Cap" to preserve difficulty and balance. Although level 99s could obliterate Dynamis, killing the zone and repops way easier, making more AF2 drops likely as well as morem currency flowing.
This will indirectly make prices drop and make more relic weapons prevalent. It doesn't make sense to see Nyzul/Assaults/Limbus be uncapped for 99, they would be way too easy, you would never die since mobs in Nyzul are DC to a 75 they'd be TWTBW at 99, and you could probably 1 shot the bosses. Limbus would be soloable and always packed(because of people soloing). Current uncapped KSNMs would have to be 75 capped or people would be soloing Wyrm for Speed Belts.
Sky is going to be packed now that people will be able to basically kill pops solo and probably duo/trio Kirin. AV and PW will finally be killable more easily! :d

[Baelorn]

The whole point of raising the cap is to make old content easier.

[Jakson]

So what in the game now, aside from AV (obviously because of multi-Benediction), can you not solo as say, RDM/NIN or NIN/DNC or whatever is the best soloer at 99? I just wonder how one would go about killing Jormungand at 99 when he will be 4 levels lower.

[Scritch]

P. Warden will still require at least a party. Battleclad Chariot's 10,000 Needles and Longhorned Chariot's Charm will ensure that.

[Fwahm]

The current HNMs (Wyrms, Bahamut v2, PW, AV) won't be soloable straight up still, as their huge attack totals will make them hit for several hundreds of damage on non PLDs, even with the loss of the level correction to attack.

In addition, many of the NMs have nasty special moves that will preclude soloing, such as Terror and Ga IIIs, which players won't be enough higher level than the mob to reliably resist.

I could see some of the lesser HNMs, like Fafnir or the 4 sky gods, being straight solod by jobs like RDM, but nothing stronger than them.

[Jakson]

Am gonna NIN99/DNC49 Byakko

[Omniyoji]

I'd bet my money that current uncapped events will soon be "Level 75 Cap" to preserve difficulty and balance. Although level 99s could obliterate Dynamis, killing the zone and repops way easier, making more AF2 drops likely as well as morem currency flowing.
This will indirectly make prices drop and make more relic weapons prevalent. It doesn't make sense to see Nyzul/Assaults/Limbus be uncapped for 99, they would be way too easy, you would never die since mobs in Nyzul are DC to a 75 they'd be TWTBW at 99, and you could probably 1 shot the bosses. Limbus would be soloable and always packed(because of people soloing). Current uncapped KSNMs would have to be 75 capped or people would be soloing Wyrm for Speed Belts.
Sky is going to be packed now that people will be able to basically kill pops solo and probably duo/trio Kirin. AV and PW will finally be killable more easily! :d

The whole point of raising the cap is to make old content easier.

Yes AnulOrphan, EXACTLY! They can't suddenly undo everything they've done.

FFXI was created with "partying" & "teamwork" in mind as well as all that Japanese culture stuff like "patience" and "effort". That's what this whole game was built on. Sure people have seen a few holes in the system and have managed to accomplish impressive solos but that's nothing compared to trading skill for stats. Everyone and their mother are going to be able to low man x y and z.

If it's getting harder to do things b/c of lack of people then that's the reason merging servers is for. Old content is hard cause no one wants to help you. Keeping server populations from dwindling will increase the chances of you finding another to help you out... <.<

[Cool4Cats]

I wonder if, once AV becomes 'easy', they'll announce wtf we were meant to do with it!?

It would be nice to finally know, huh?

It'd be even better if they announce how to a few days before the update and let us have a go in the game's current limitations to see if it was ever possible. It'd be damn busy down at the JoL ??? but who cares, it'd be fun right?

Also, I'm slowly coming around to this Lv99 stuff... I was not impressed at all upon it's announcement but if it's going to make things in this game more fun for low-man groups then I'm all for it.
Some of the job tweaks look really nice!
And thanks to the Translators for some great work.

[Streak]

/rdm /sam

if those ninja's work with spells then nin still.

Scholar sub for sublimation, rdm sub ftw later on with higher caps. Blu's big bottleneck for damage is always MP.

[Gergall]

It'd be even better if they announce how to a few days before the update and let us have a go in the game's current limitations to see if it was ever possible. It'd be damn busy down at the JoL ??? but who cares, it'd be fun right?

Which update? 80, 90, or 99?

I don't think anyone is going to kill him at 80 without the secret.

[newzarb]

They haven't fully clarified some of the Magian stuff beyond the basic weapon upgrade line. Even the title "3rd set of strongest weapons" was a tentative title they said.

I see. Thanks for the info. ^^

[skedel neuker]

If you can't see why people that still enjoy playing this game aren't excited then you are just jaded and self-centered.

Goody for you, you quit. I never understand why people that quit seem to think they have discovered the Holy Grail, and no one else can see their wisdom. It's a game, people play it if they have fun.

All the drivel I see you post on these boards and you're going to make some pissy comment my way and call me self centered? You stating your "opinions" over 3000 times on these boards would seem to make you more self centered than I.
Good for you, you have fun playing the same game for what will probably be 10 years by the time you finish the "new" content to 99. The question was, why do people such as yourself continue playing? If you say it's because you still have fun, I am perplexed as to whats fun about grinding exp or doing the same events repeatedly. Not "hey I already quit, better than you, join me or post some drivel about how someone who quit found the holy grail etc" but thanks for your input.
Maybe the majority of your in game friends still play, fantastic. Most of the people I liked hanging out with online quit before me and without good friends around I'm sorry, but xi is terrible.

P.S. your sig gay and not even remotely funny, amusing, or interesting. Please change it someday.

I never will understand why people that quit still post on FFXI forums. They're not only wasting their time but no one cares about their opinion anyway.

It's an internet forum, kinda goes without saying that no one gives a fuck what you think. Do you have any idea how many people post here long after they quit playing xi? Good for a +1 I suppose, but you're a douche.

Holy fuck, that was WAY more typing than either of you are worth.

[Corrderio]

Update notes seem pretty solid. I can't wait to see what they do to COR since then it'll give me even less of a reason to sub WHM (I hate that SJ so damn much....)

Sucks about the campaign WSs though. I was curious how Haja's Marksmanship WS would work in a PT situation.

[Rocl]

All the drivel I see you post on these boards and you're going to make some pissy comment my way and call me self centered? You stating your "opinions" over 3000 times on these boards would seem to make you more self centered than I.
Good for you, you have fun playing the same game for what will probably be 10 years by the time you finish the "new" content to 99. The question was, why do people such as yourself continue playing? If you say it's because you still have fun, I am perplexed as to whats fun about grinding exp or doing the same events repeatedly. Not "hey I already quit, better than you, join me or post some drivel about how someone who quit found the holy grail etc" but thanks for your input.
Maybe the majority of your in game friends still play, fantastic. Most of the people I liked hanging out with online quit before me and without good friends around I'm sorry, but xi is terrible.

P.S. your sig gay and not even remotely funny, amusing, or interesting. Please change it someday.



It's an internet forum, kinda goes without saying that no one gives a fuck what you think. Do you have any idea how many people post here long after they quit playing xi? Good for a +1 I suppose, but you're a douche.

Holy fuck, that was WAY more typing than either of you are worth.

cool story bro

NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS ALSO BRO

[Hyan]

All MMO's are a grind... HOW CAN ANYONE LIKE THEM?! I am perplexed.