Obama intends an up-or-down vote on health reform

[Demosthenes11]

national deficit really means nothing anymore anyways
thank god for china really

[Pirian]

Last tally Japan was actually a bigger holder of US debt, lol. This was 2 weeks ago, iirc

[Vajra]

The True face of the Tea Party, throw money at Parkinson's Disease man like he's a stripper, because he's a communist who supposedly want's "Hand Outs."

Young Turk's View
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiKGjM5tHU

MSNBC's View
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xj2A_1quo

[kuronosan]

These types of people make me sick.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Yea fuck people thinking other people aren't entitled to their money.

[Rhinox]

I agree 100% with swampy.

I mean we being the greatest nation on gods green earth have the best system in the world. So much so that Every country that has 'socialized' medicine is trying to emulate us right swampy?


I mean who wouldn't want to rely on the pity of others in times of catastrophic illness if you can't afford healthcare. Or head to the Emergency room for a headache and get turned away until you're basically near death and often times too late to do anything about it when you find out its an inoperable brain tumor.

[Rhinox]

[kuronosan]

I agree 100% with swampy.

I mean we being the greatest nation on gods green earth have the best system in the world. So much so that Every country that has 'socialized' medicine is trying to emulate us right swampy?


I mean who wouldn't want to rely on the pity of others in times of catastrophic illness if you can't afford healthcare. Or head to the Emergency room for a headache and get turned away until you're basically near death and often times too late to do anything about it when you find out its an inoperable brain tumor.

I almost thought you were serious until I got halfway down. Thank God.

[Rhinox]

Oh I'm dead serious. Fuck that twitcher

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

If anecdotal stories don't work for making the case against govt. run care, they don't work for making the case in support of it.

And I 100% agree with liberals. Stealing for personal gain is wrong, but when stealing for distribution to a large enough group of people, man I'm all for it.

[Rhinox]

Tell me your anecdotal case against Health insurance reform.

Tell me about some healthy business owner and corporations that will have to close their doors and start a new business because the government decided to do whats in their right and raise taxes in a government that features a Progressive tax system. All in order to prevent people from losing their homes/lives/quality of life.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Tell me your anecdotal case against Health insurance reform.

Tell me about some healthy business owner and corporations that will have to close their doors and start a new business because the government decided to do whats in their right and raise taxes in a government that features a Progressive tax system. All in order to prevent people from losing their homes/lives/quality of life.

Walgreen's in Washington. Look at the horror stories that come out of Canada and England. It won't immediately be like that here, but give it time and it will be.

[Rhinox]

jfc I hate when people say that taxing in stealing. I just want to punch them in the face. You know whats stealing? Banks Putting families on the street and Goldman sachs fucking up the economy of a country then get bailed out by a government when it fucks up with zero repercussion.


You want to know whats stealing? Military contractors siphoning tens of billions of the tax payer money because of sweetheart deals Cheney made in a drummed up war over oil and personal vendettas.


You what to know whats stealing? Disenfranching millions of people by disqualifying thousands of votes in a race that was too close to call and then have a supreme court anoint a president like some archaic church anointing the Holy Roman emperor.

[Rhinox]

Walgreen's in Washington. Look at the horror stories that come out of Canada and England. It won't immediately be like that here, but give it time and it will be.

Please continue. Please tell me how the survival rate in those country are lower then they are here and point to some talking point and a push poll.

Please tell me how the PM of canada went to florida to get treated.


So I can then tell you that those polls use 'zombie' (thanks to the GOP for that new term) math.

And I tell you that we do have the best health care system in the world

Spoiler: show

If you're a millionaire

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

jfc I hate when people say that taxing in stealing. I just want to punch them in the face. You know whats stealing? Banks Putting families on the street and Goldman sachs fucking up the economy of a country then get bailed out by a government when it fucks up with zero repercussion.


You want to know whats stealing? Military contractors siphoning tens of billions of the tax payer money because of sweetheart deals Cheney made in a drummed up war over oil and personal vendettas.


You what to know whats stealing? Disenfranching millions of people by disqualifying thousands of votes in a race that was too close to call and then have a supreme court anoint a president like some archaic church anointing the Holy Roman emperor.

Sounds like you don't like crony capitalism. I don't either.

Multiple news sources went back and counted the votes, Bush still won by 1,200.

Taxing isn't stealing, that's nothing but a liberal straw-man. Taxing to take from in order to give to another is stealing.

[Takedown3]

lol@horror stories from canada

nigga i went to the emerg 4 times for myself, 2 times for my wife, once for my daughter, not to mention multiple allergy tests from multiple doctors, 2 apps and a consult for an ultrasound(s) on my nut-sack and i didn't have to pay a dime out of pocket

sucks to be me, wish i had a commercial for profit health care system in my country

[Rhinox]

Sounds like you don't like crony capitalism. I don't either.

Multiple news sources went back and counted the votes, Bush still won by 1,200.

Taxing isn't stealing, that's nothing but a liberal straw-man. Taxing to take from in order to give to another is stealing.

Wrong.

Who is getting this money government is 'stealing' off of?

[Yubar]

Synopsis for those not keeping up:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62H5AK20100319

So, umm if someone doesn't make and have income. They wouldn't be fined?

[Rhinox]

So, umm if someone doesn't make and have income. They wouldn't be fined?

No. You'll still be required to get health insurance but the evil government will subsidize the plan.

[Yubar]

No. You'll still be required to get health insurance but the evil government will subsidize the plan.

Umm, I don't know what that means?