BG Doctor: Hijama

[Kaylia]

no! leeches put chemicals into your blood to prevent clotting... and chemicals are evil.

IT'S NOT CHEMICAL, IT'S NATURAL


No but seriously, chemical vs natural debate is the best thing ever.

It actually works, its been used for centuries(was still common just 50 years ago?).

Its just that with the advancements in the medical field there are more time and cost effective methods out there.

Religion also works. There was a shitload of miracle 100+ years ago

[ZarakiKujata]

Religion also works. There was a shitload of miracle 100+ years ago

Maybe if you accepted Jesus into your life you would have miracles today.

[Cadsuane]

I'm not a sir

My issue is mostly when people totally close themselves off to actually THINKING about things. This is something that has been seen on BOTH sides of the equation (often occurring at opposite extremes of scientists vs clergy). It then takes heroic effort to change the existing dogma. Examples of dogma that changed in Biology:

: The war between chemical and electrical synapses - what they can BOTH exist??
: DNA > RNA > Protein ALWAYS... oh wait retroviruses? prions? damnit
: Marilyn Kozak (cause the woman's viewpoint drives me crazy)

Equally I have issues with people who think they're experts in something but don't really know what the hell they're talking about - which is the most likely thing to encounter on internet forums of course.

I simply wish that people would keep a more open mind about things like holistic medicine. Is some of it garbage? yep Is all of it? no

Want to see me get really pissed off about something? Start talking about the fucking moron parents who don't want to get their kids vaccinated.

Very good reason it's polarized, since holistic approaches are bullshit simply because mysticism in general is bullshit. The obvious counter here (which you've used) is that some holistic voodoo methods actually work, and yes indeed, some absolutely do; someone already brought up leeches as an excellent example, as is the use of medicinal maggots to treat necrosis etc. Viewing alternate medicine's occasional successes as a vindication for the holistic approach is still an egregious fallacy if only because an adequate explanation and responsible application for those methods can still only come from modern science and medicine, ie. handwaving explanations with buzzwords like "de-toxification" and "chi" are wrong, just like explaining the benefits of leeches as the rebalancing of vital humours is wrong. The effective treatments that traditional approaches have stumbled into essentially by accident are eventually embraced by conventional medicine and improved upon anyway. Holism is throwback huckster bullshit, period.