Art thread

[Beckwin]

hey I took many semesters of art to smear shit around

[Colenzo]

Hey everybody lets take one semester of art to learn shitty basics and smudge some charcaol around on a paper and show it off

mmhmm

[Cantih]

Heian
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...liaSketch2.jpg


Isladar
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...t/CIMG4558.jpg

Hey everybody lets take one semester of art to learn shitty basics and smudge some charcaol around on a paper and show it off

Krye
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...tuff/Kryke.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IVI5W8Eg3G...320/YouMad.jpg

[Krye]

I didn't draw any of that you dumb bitch

[Cantih]

Because you couldn't even manage that, huh?

[Beckwin]

naked people
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...edmalenude.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...seatedpair.jpg

[Krye]

Because you couldn't even manage that, huh?

Because I was like 12 years old on a shitty roleplaying website and I paid other 12 year olds gold to draw shitty drawings. I'm taking a shitty drawing class just cause I need the credits and I'm telling you it's easy as shit. No, I can't do what they're doing yet, but we share our classroom with students one class ahead of us and from what I've seen I think it would probably be pretty easy for them. You just spend retarded amounts of money on retarded art supplies and then smudge that shit around like a retard for a while and you've got "art".

[Kazen]

By smudge do you mean charcoal? Charcoal is cheap as fuck, I spent $1.99 recently on 5 sticks of vine charcoal. I'll post some shit later but I'm only decent. My main field of study deals primarily with Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign so I'm not amazing at drawing by hand.

Edit: Beckwin those are pretty damn good, I'm actually taking a figure drawing class currently because its required by major, any tips? So far I seem to like the "shapes" method, I'm not sure if it actually has a name but you look for parts of the body that look like shapes and you block them off in the correct dimensions before you go back over and actually draw them.

[Heian]

The only things I would have that would be considered expensive art supplies would be a pad of velum sheets left over from my hand drafting days which was around 40 bucks for 50 sheets, and other hand drafting supplies, my collection of Prismacolor Markers built up over the years, and some of my black ink pens for freehand drawing, Microns, Faber-Castell, etc.. The pens now days run about $3.00 a pen but if you take care of them, can last for over year easy. My sketchbooks are usually not cheap either, compared to what most people use. Personally I prefer Moleskine sketchbooks as you can break the binding easily and lay it flat without ruining the binding and they have an elastic the hold it together, great paper, and just an overall great proportion and feel.

Also like Kazen said, charcoal is probably the cheapest medium to work in. Sketching does not have to be expensive at all.

[Kazen]

Yeah I use cheap sketchbooks lol (Strathmore), but I do spend a lot of money on paper for printing. I recently spent $90 on Speckletone Starch White laser paper, and before that $100 on Epson 5 star Ink Jet paper. But I love working in charcoal, that shits so cheap and I can save my markers (I use Prismacolor markers as well), as well as Prismacolor pens/colored pencils.

[Heian]

Yeah I use cheap sketchbooks lol (Strathmore), but I do spend a lot of money on paper for printing. I recently spent $90 on Speckletone Starch White laser paper, and before that $100 on Epson 5 star Ink Jet paper. But I love working in charcoal, that shits so cheap and I can save my markers (I use Prismacolor markers as well), as well as Prismacolor pens/colored pencils.

I feel your pain on paper, check out this company:

http://www.thepapermillstore.com/

I was able to get 250 Sheets of 11 x 17 100lb 100 Brightness Double Sided Medium Gloss Photo Paper for around $45.00 with shipping, and it was an amazing quality. Hopefully they will be cheaper than where you are currently buying.

[Kazen]

I've used them before, this place isn't bad either.

www.frenchpaper.com (this is for computer printing paper though) Some of it is ugly but I love the solid tone/speckletone papers they carry. I had to order a few different sizes but my largest size was 12.5" x 19" which was like $30 for 200 sheets. The shipping on paper is the worst though, its so huge and heavy in a bundle it costs a ton to ship.

[Heian]

Ah that is why your paper is so expensive, I am generally doing portfolio printing on white cardstock paper types, I am guessing you are more into custom and speciality papers for more graphic design based projects. The prices for that stuff is nuts, I occasionally feel your pain on that

[Kazen]

Yeah that $90 was for paper that is being used to make my portfolio. It sucks to, as Graphic Design majors we have to create -EVERYTHING- even down to our folder, nothing can be store bought. So I had to buy 25 sheets of 30"x30" paper in card stock weight that matches my text stock, 8.5x11 card stock for my business cards etc, and then the 12.5x19 text weight for all the papers being included (has to be 12.5x19, 8.5x11 cant print on full bleeds so I have to have bleeds and cut each one down after printing).

Duro-tone paper is pretty bad ass, I just haven't had a project yet that would fit it. Its a very oily paper that makes the ink look glossy and dull at the same time giving it a nice effect on certain things.

[mootsfox]

My paper is ~$50 + shipping per 100 sheets

[Howard Roark]

I pay about 7 bucks for over 2000 sheets

Spoiler: show

http://www.walmart.ca/servletimagedo...&imageid=77754

[Heian]

Yeah that $90 was for paper that is being used to make my portfolio. It sucks to, as Graphic Design majors we have to create -EVERYTHING- even down to our folder, nothing can be store bought. So I had to buy 25 sheets of 30"x30" paper in card stock weight that matches my text stock, 8.5x11 card stock for my business cards etc, and then the 12.5x19 text weight for all the papers being included (has to be 12.5x19, 8.5x11 cant print on full bleeds so I have to have bleeds and cut each one down after printing).

Duro-tone paper is pretty bad ass, I just haven't had a project yet that would fit it. Its a very oily paper that makes the ink look glossy and dull at the same time giving it a nice effect on certain things.

I made my portfolio from scratch too so I feel your pain but it was nothing as elaborate as yours sounds. My next one will be a lot more elaborate as I am looking into clear overlays that would have diagrammatic information overlaid onto the actual images, custom bindings or hinges, things along those lines. My portfolio is currently formated at 8.5 x 14 but again like you had to do full bleeds, I did as well and had to print on 11 x 17 and then get a paper cutter for each sheet, and that was a lot of fun since mine was double sided and I did not do alternating pages, I let the printer do it automatically so they were slightly off sometimes. Luckily it was hardly noticeable.

I have thought about making my own personal business cards for architectural industry events and other social events it has not been necessary yet, but we shall see, I have been told I have a good aesthetic for layout design although I feel my ability to combine interesting graphics into layouts could use some improvement. Maybe I'll post some portfolio examples if I ever get around to converting PDFs to JPEGs.

[Kazen]

I'm not doing all this by choice lol, this is for our Senior review. Basically its a class we have to take which is completely about setting up our portfolios and if we don't pass the review we can't continue with classes until we pass it.

[isladar]

That's some really nice charcoal work, both of you; its one of those mediums where everything is expressed in tone and I've always found that fascinating. Also I love conte crayons, fuck yeah.

I'm of two minds as far as art materials go. I have incredible watercolour paper, thick vellum for drawing, staedtler pencils / drafting supplies, prisma colour nonsense, and those $13-a-tube ridiculously expensive Windsor and Newton watercolours.. and like 60% of my best drawings are on copypaper with a cheap mechanical pencil. So who knows.

Art, Music, Thread Titles, /angry

IS THERE FUCKING NOTHING YOU CAN'T DO ISLA?
I mean, goddamn.

I KNOW, SRSLY

[Beckwin]

oh, the figures I posted were done in pencil.

Kazen: do whatever you gotta do to establish proportions/dimensions. shapes are fine; I tended toward stick figures a lot too. One thing I found helpful is that before you lay down any shapes or lines for the figure, put down some "boundary lines" of sorts: flat horizontal or vertical lines to establish where the top of the head, bottom of the feet, etc will be. then you can add some diagonals if needed to establish the outer boundary of limbs and torso.

it's helpful for overall composition, as you're considering the whole paper for scale and placement of the figure rather than whatever size head or torso you arbitrarily draw a shape for first. then within the space you establish, you can divide up how much is torso, how much is leg, and so on, rather than having to thing "ok so I drew the head this big, how much bigger should the right leg be?"