Iran's Ahmadinejad: Sept. 11 attacks a 'big lie'

[Stiker]

I haven't seen anyone bring up my favorite part of all the conspiracy theories yet:

Our government was so smart in completely masterminding 9-11, managing to make all the flights, all of their passengers, staff, etc. completely wipe them off the face of the earth, fabricate evidence to frame terrorists that didn't really do it, and use the media to spread this propaganda to go to a war. Yet at the same time, the government has been dumb enough to fail in silencing all the conspiracy theorists that have been exposing them!

That's right folks, our government can mastermind one of the biggest hoaxes known to man, but they are no match for a few crackpots with access to the internet. The government is comprised evil geniuses that act like complete retards as cover. How did we not see that coming?!

Fantastic logic.

[Rhyis.]

http://newsbusters.org/media/2006-10...oPark-Bush.jpg

"So who caused 9/11?
Wha'dya mean? A bunch of pissed off Muslims.
Yeah, what are you, retarded?"

[Faris]

I haven't seen anyone bring up my favorite part of all the conspiracy theories yet:

Our government was so smart in completely masterminding 9-11, managing to make all the flights, all of their passengers, staff, etc. completely wipe them off the face of the earth, fabricate evidence to frame terrorists that didn't really do it, and use the media to spread this propaganda to go to a war.
Fantastic logic.

uuh, that actually did happen.

9/11 - personally, something is definitely fishy about it, the fact that it happened the way it did doesnt make sense, crashing in the pentagon and two towers; w/o intelligence noticing is just wow.

speculations about how the buildings fell, the explosions and the fire, still doesnt look like ordinary collapse of the tower thats for sure.

reasons behind the 2 invasions are also weird, and its mainly connected to 9/11.
alot of shit changed after the event...the whole thing is just weird.

I dont know who did it. I also have a feeling that the u.s government doesnt know who did it, but they had to pick someone; for the reputation of the country and the safety of the people. it would be hilarious if they said, well we dont know who did it.

[Cadsuane]

Don't be ridiculous. Al Qaeda publically and proudly claimed responsibility for it, the identified hijackers were well known and experienced jihadists with documented ties to Al Qaeda and Bin Laden himself. Inb4 plausible deniability because fuck off with solipsistic conspiracy theories.

[Faris]

actually, i saw a video of bin laden denying connection to 9/11...maybe u can link me to some of the evidence you're talking about.

before you get all worked up in your next post, I just want to be clear on the subject.

thanks in advance.

[Demosthenes11]

actually, i saw a video of bin laden denying connection to 9/11...maybe u can link me to some of the evidence you're talking about.

before you get all worked up in your next post, I just want to be clear on the subject.

thanks in advance.

LOL
you are claiming any knowledge on the subject and don't even know bin laden had a tape out admitting to the event like an hour after it happened?

get out

[Zoolander]

Any legit conspiracy theory should be focusing more on whether or not high level officials knew of the plot and let a Pearl Harbor v2 happen, not this nonsense. You can question, along with every other intelligent and educated person in the world, why the hell we went into Iraq, but Afghanistan...eh, it was pretty sound logic.

As others said, Bush and his administration were far too retarded and shortsighted to pull anything like this off. I can see it being plausible that it was allowed to happen, but the more likely answer is that somewhere in the chain of command whatever intelligence we did get about it was mishandled/someone fucked up. People fuck up a lot, even in the intelligence community. I should go back and read some of those reports now...kinda forgot about em.

[Faris]

LOL
you are claiming any knowledge on the subject and don't even know bin laden had a tape out admitting to the event like an hour after it happened?

get out

"Following the latest explosions in the United States, some Americans are pointing the finger at me, but I deny that because I have not done it. The United States has always accused me of these incidents which have been caused by its enemies. Reiterating once again, I say that I have not done it, and the perpetrators have carried this out because of their own interest," said bin Laden on September 16, 2001, just five days after the attacks.

"I have held talks with His Eminence Amir ol-Momenin [Taleban leader Mola Mohammad Omar Mojahed], who does not allow such acts to be carried out from Afghanistan's territory." Again on September 28, 2001 in an interview with Karachi Ummat, bin Laden denies any involvement with the attacks and further denied that al-Qaeda had anything to do with plotting and carrying out the attacks.

ok?

[Correction]

speculations about how the buildings fell, the explosions and the fire, still doesnt look like ordinary collapse of the tower thats for sure.

While ignorance and denial are nothing new for the religiously devout, at least think for two seconds about what you said here. What is 'normal' for buildings the size of WTC1 & 2 when struck by jumbo jets? By what standard are you judging their collapse to be out of the ordinary?

That you let such stupidity fuel your suspicions about the 'reality' behind the attacks even now is astonishing. Here I thought you attended university, at least, where they teach critical thinking.

[Demosthenes11]

hmmm i thought it was sooner than a year later, but nonetheless:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

[Faris]

dropping down like the way it did, wasnt normal

that type of collapse is identical to a demolition process.

this IS critical thinking...where you question everything and look at all different possibilities, views, approaches.

and in the end, all im saying i dont know and something is fishy.

many here seem to be the ones who are in denial, and stress the fact that the information from your notorious government is all correct and there are absolutely no doubt about...

[Faris]

hmmm i thought it was sooner than a year later, but nonetheless:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

first of all, LOLfoxnews

second, i skimmed through the article and the quotes of binladen, he doesnt really admit to anything, he just mentions it. maybe i missed it in the article, please quote it for me.

and even if he did admit that after 2 years, it makes it more weird that he first denies, then he admits it. Bin laden is known for his threats to the u.s, does he lie about his shit, i havent really seen him lie tbh.

so that being said, again im stressing the fact that this whole incident is fiiiiiiishhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy, nothing more nothing less.

[Demosthenes11]

its anywhere if you actually care to look, including exact quotes and all that nonsense. for someone that is so interested you don't seem to have many facts. hiding behind lolfoxnews wont get you out here.

and again, you can't just look at something and call it fishy without identifying the implications of such accusations. The only way the building collapsing could be fishy is if it was a controlled demolition. That would have to be the government.

unless it was the stonemasons

[Max™]

dropping down like the way it did, wasnt normal

that type of collapse is identical to a demolition process.

this IS critical thinking...where you question everything and look at all different possibilities, views, approaches.

and in the end, all im saying i dont know and something is fishy.

many here seem to be the ones who are in denial, and stress the fact that the information from your notorious government is all correct and there are absolutely no doubt about...

The information from my eyes is correct, I watched them fall, it was exactly what I expected to happen as I ran outcomes in my head, it's exactly what you would expect to happen if you knew what gravity was.

What you don't know could fill like... a building full of those things with paper and words and information... books!



Oh yeah, a library... go read a fucking book dude.

[miokomioko]

Fill the middle of any tall building with tons of burning jet fuel and watch what happens when things start to melt.

Feeding trolls, etc.

[Cadsuane]

actually, i saw a video of bin laden denying connection to 9/11...maybe u can link me to some of the evidence you're talking about.

before you get all worked up in your next post, I just want to be clear on the subject.

thanks in advance.

Correct. He initially denied it, then claimed responsibility.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004...da.september11

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/1...age041029.html

As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way [and] to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.

We had no difficulty in dealing with Bush and his administration because they resemble the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half by the sons of kings ... They have a lot of pride, arrogance, greed and thievery.

[Bush] adopted despotism and the crushing of freedoms from Arab rulers _ called it the Patriot Act under the guise of combating terrorism ...

We had agreed with [the September 11] overall commander, Mohammed Atta, may God rest his soul, to carry out all operations in 20 minutes before Bush and his administration take notice.

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American forces [Bush] would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone at a time when they most needed him because he thought listening to a child discussing her goat and its ramming was more important than the planes and their ramming of the skyscrapers. This had given us three times the time needed to carry out the operations, thanks be to God ...

[zoobernut]

dropping down like the way it did, wasnt normal

that type of collapse is identical to a demolition process.

this IS critical thinking...where you question everything and look at all different possibilities, views, approaches.

and in the end, all im saying i dont know and something is fishy.

many here seem to be the ones who are in denial, and stress the fact that the information from your notorious government is all correct and there are absolutely no doubt about...

It didn't look ANYTHING like a controlled demolition. The towers hit MANY surrounding buildings. A controlled demolition doesn't do that (if the company doing it knows what the fuck they are doing) Also demolitions collapse from the center out bottom to top, the towers fell outside in top to bottom.

Seriously of all the conspiracies the least viable one is the ones involving some sort of controlled demolition of the towers or that there were bombs in the bottom of the towers or shit like that.

[Stiker]

Firas, I'm still waiting for you to address the second half of my statement that you cut out: our government was smart enough to lie about everything, yet dumb enough to allow people in our own country to go public with the conspiracy.

I mean, if the government has the kind of massive propaganda control you seem to think it does, why not quash the people trying to expose you? Or better yet, if you are willing to kill thousands of American citizens, including government officials, why stop there? Why not assassinate anyone saying things to the contrary?

[Faris]

Firas, I'm still waiting for you to address the second half of my statement that you cut out: our government was smart enough to lie about everything, yet dumb enough to allow people in our own country to go public with the conspiracy.

I mean, if the government has the kind of massive propaganda control you seem to think it does, why not quash the people trying to expose you? Or better yet, if you are willing to kill thousands of American citizens, including government officials, why stop there? Why not assassinate anyone saying things to the contrary?

valid point, and this is more evidence for me to say i dont know.

i simply cant just believe them, and i cant accuse them of such madness.

one point is this is the internet...noone can stop it.

second point is the internet; like the u.s government does have a history of bullshit..

so yeah..

[Correction]

many here seem to be the ones who are in denial, and stress the fact that the information from your notorious government is all correct and there are absolutely no doubt about...

Yes, Popular Mechanics is a government propaganda publication.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...l?page=4#puffs