Ex-Perserverance, Dioma

[Izo]

It was a good run for us in any case got to kick some HM ass around got everything I ever wanted (W legs) my only regret is that SW and Ixi dont beloung to us anymore.

[Clerix]

Can I get a TL;DR version?

[Mythe_Seraph]

Dioma left Pers with a small group due to his schoolwork. He joined Volume, will now make relics faster (?). He gave out the Pers LS bank before leaving.

People bitched saying he stole bank, etc., no info to support it.

Fellow Pers members supported Dioma, even some people that dislike him.

Nynja looks as retarded in 2010 as he did years ago, no surprise.

Failure laid the smack down, with knowledge.

It wasn't really worth the read.

[Bukadan]

To give Nynja credit, he has been around a long time, and actually seen first hand time and time again what linkshell leaders are capable of. However, I just think that he should reconsider about dioma.

[Clerix]

Thanks, Mythe.

[NynJa]

Schoolwork? His FF schedule dictates he doesnt go to school, unless he's up at 4am on school nights xping on Ronfaure birds?....oh right he tells you that, so it must be true ^_^

Failure didnt do shit all other than represent his name: fail. The only reason he's even sticking up for this joke is because his new LS took him in. Demonsthenes thinks he knows what the fuck he's talking about in regards to changing names, because he thinks he's a boss. He's just chump change who wont actually dig deeper to see why exactly Xerxes changed his name. He wasnt sick of it, he had a negative rep: RMTing shit and stealing from accounts. He HAD to change his name, and tried to hide his identity. Truth came out, and the only people he managed to get in his LS were ppl who didnt know anything about Gilgamesh endgame pre-2006/7, people who didnt KNOW his past. But its ok, Demos will still think he's a boss because in his own little world, its what he is.

I stand towards my position of Dioma. I'm not the one whos got blinders on my eyes. I've seen the shit he's pulled, the paypal images that he himself posted in gloating about all the shit he RMTed, the holier than thou attitude, the way the LS really works (explain to me why the only people who stayed in Pers were those who had no other endgame experience?)

The only support for Dioma that I see, are those in Pers, those in Volume, or those who are simply on a witch hunt against me.

As for the attitude towards me, keep on hatin. I'll be heading home from work soon. I'll be glad to get home, log on and NOT see Dioma online. Theres a saying, "one mans trash is another ones treasure". Enjoy it, I personally will NOT miss him.

[Weeks]

Quick general point:

These linkshells where the leaders are overrewarded by, for example, favorable relic sponsorships, thrive because they are able to provide the rank-and-file members with exceptional rewards of rare/ex or gil. In order to achieve this, without exception that I'm aware of, those linkshells cheat the system and every other linkshell on the server. It is absolutely not a coincidence that the rise of this type of linkshell coincided with botting going from the dirty little secret of many shells to something right out in the open that so-called "ethical" people will openly justify.

Fact is, this isn't strictly about whether members of a given linkshell feel about their system, because a linkshell set up like this is dead in the water unless it enriches its members at the expense of fair play. I for one despise what the FFXI endgame community has become, and I have little doubt that a major factor has been that the rewards are so high for leaders willing to push their members in this direction.

[Izzy]

Wow, lots of NHL thread peeps up in here!

[Ratatapa]

lots? i only see you and me izzy lol

[Demosthenes11]

ahahaha nynja has a hardon for me cuz ive called him out for being a retard a few times

ultimate umad

[Izzy]

Check out nynja's sig lol

[Ratatapa]

Check out nynja's sig lol

who'se nynja?

[Cairthenn]

who'se nynja?

Very good point.

[FailureMidgard]

Quick general point:

These linkshells where the leaders are overrewarded by, for example, favorable relic sponsorships, thrive because they are able to provide the rank-and-file members with exceptional rewards of rare/ex or gil. In order to achieve this, without exception that I'm aware of, those linkshells cheat the system and every other linkshell on the server. It is absolutely not a coincidence that the rise of this type of linkshell coincided with botting going from the dirty little secret of many shells to something right out in the open that so-called "ethical" people will openly justify.

Fact is, this isn't strictly about whether members of a given linkshell feel about their system, because a linkshell set up like this is dead in the water unless it enriches its members at the expense of fair play. I for one despise what the FFXI endgame community has become, and I have little doubt that a major factor has been that the rewards are so high for leaders willing to push their members in this direction.

Because clearly fair play is exactly what you dictate it to be, right? Please tell me you don't use windower or spellcast, because it'd be pretty hypocritical to try to say botting is completely unethical and not fair play, but then turn around and use other things that are similar.

Also, what is your definition of a shell dead in the water? We "have to enrich our members with items or gil". Pretty sure any linkshell, botting or not, HNM or lot, will lose member if the never get any items. There's a few rare people that truly are happy never getting a single thing, but that's few and far between, and if you take any old shell and start cheating the members out of items or gil, I guarantee you there will be drama and people leaving.

People enjoy being in successful shells/guilds, this is nothing new, and the only relationship it has to botting is that botting increases your chances of being a successful shell. Past that, you can simulate a bot with proper organization anyway, it's just a huge headache that nobody wants to put up with...which, guess what, is the same convenience you get from other 3rd party tools. And if you really despise them all that much, well, 'grats, I think you're a masochist, not a purist.

[Cleverness]

TLDR;

Nynja is mad that someone became #1 ahead of him on FFXIAH rankings, they transfer and he and a few others commence to spew a ton of shit, all of which has been proven wrong by people who are still currently in the shell and were in it before(bank ninjaing, etc). Refusing to accept that someone who is better than him is better than him, he continues spewing shit, in hopes that it will eventually work. At the end of the day, he is below this person in rankings, and this single fact will make him rage till the end of time.

Inb4 he starts ranting again, showing he is indeed mad.

[FailureMidgard]

TLDR;

Nynja is Nynja.

I shortened it a bit more for you, I think.

[Ratatapa]

i wish i could canonize him outside of quebec

[Cleverness]

Oh he's from Quebec? That explains everything.

[Izo]

You will be missed dioma you smexy panda, the man was good to his linkshell of course the people defending him are the people in pers that just shows you how much we respect him.

[Izo]

I dont think nynja cares about rankings I think he is just misguided about the fact dioma turned out to be a good person