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    I guess Ill worry about it once I have everything else done, but man that is a ridiculous trophy, at least it adds replay value!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Haha. Nice. What'd you do? Take that trapa, level up a weapon to the cap and dismantle it for three?
    Considering I already had a Malboro Wand at * Lv and had 3mil rotting in my pocket from all the ingots from those 50 turtles, I went with the desynth route and capped Lightning's Omega, a new Belladonna Nirvana for Vanille at lv62 at that time and a brand new, from scratch Taming Pole Kain's Lance for Fang at lv40, then I was broke, but happy. Turtles went down so fast, didn't even have Genji Gloves back then.

    I'm considering doing the same for the second Trapezo, depends how much Trapezo I get from turtles before I'm done getting the other stuff for treasure trophy. If I'm still doing turtles by then, might just go with perfumes for funds instead of ingots.

    Currently just trying to 5 star all missions (still no gold watch). Got all of the Faultwarrens out of the way at least. Mission 51 was fun to get 5 star on.

    Mission 55 Neochu is more resistant to death than turtles, note: eyeballing. Pop some Imperil on that shit (think that was one of the debuffs you could stick on it) and spam death =D

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    Most of the stuff you find in the story you don't need to upgrade, since you'll likely find a better version from a chest or an enemy anyways. I kept some stuff as a checklist, but generally you just need to upgrade to the highest tier. I think there was an accessory list (along with what you need to upgrade it with and what it's upgraded to) posted somewhere on this forum, but I can't remember where.

    And Neochu (and the mini ones) are a LOT harder than a regular Ochu, the small things will fuck you up good even at Crystarium level 9, never mind the ridiculous damage Neochu can do. I would wait for Death, it's the easiest way. But even after killing it with death, you can still fuck up and die cause of the small ones. Damage reduction, full time SEN and MED and a DD will help though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Considering I already had a Malboro Wand at * Lv and had 3mil rotting in my pocket from all the ingots from those 50 turtles, I went with the desynth route and capped Lightning's Omega, a new Belladonna Nirvana for Vanille at lv62 at that time and a brand new, from scratch Taming Pole Kain's Lance for Fang at lv40, then I was broke, but happy. Turtles went down so fast, didn't even have Genji Gloves back then.

    I'm considering doing the same for the second Trapezo, depends how much Trapezo I get from turtles before I'm done getting the other stuff for treasure trophy. If I'm still doing turtles by then, might just go with perfumes for funds instead of ingots.

    Currently just trying to 5 star all missions (still no gold watch). Got all of the Faultwarrens out of the way at least. Mission 51 was fun to get 5 star on.

    Mission 55 Neochu is more resistant to death than turtles, note: eyeballing. Pop some Imperil on that shit (think that was one of the debuffs you could stick on it) and spam death =D
    Ahh. I'm sitting on about 1.2mil gil since I got pretty lucky with my first Trap. Haven't used it yet. I have a Malboro Wand already at 15, so maybe it'd be quicker to just finish starring that, transform it to the Nirvana, and then cap it, and desynth? I'm not sure. I'm doing Helter Skelter > Omega for Light and Venus Gospel > Kain's Lance for Fang. I don't plan on using Vanille *too* much, but she's been using level 1 weaopns (except the Malboro Wand for death stuff) through most the game anyway.

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    Considering it takes about 1.2-1.5mil to cap a Weapon from *lv tier 2 to Omega/Kain's/Nirvana *lv, might just be better to do a bit more turtles till about the 2.5mil mark and see what your luck is on trapezos beside ingots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Considering it takes about 1.2-1.5mil to cap a Weapon from *lv tier 2 to Omega/Kain's/Nirvana *lv, might just be better to do a bit more turtles till about the 2.5mil mark and see what your luck is on trapezos beside ingots?
    Yeah, seems like the best route. I guess my way would be the lazy way, and would hurt mroe in the long run since even if I did end up making my ultimate weapons, they'd be weaker than the maxed 2nd stage since I'd have no money for upgrades, lol

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    Venus Gospel to Kain's Lance only takes a minor hit of 9 str/magic less at base level. Nirvana from Belladonna is hit harder ya. Don't remember Lightning's, was the first thing I blew to Omega cap lol (Blaze Edge base).

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    While playing through I did manage to Max out at least one weapon for each character. I have a *helter skelter and *umtima weapon for light. Used the helter until I got the lionsheart from a chest. Waiting on a trap for the ultima. I spoiled light because she is my favorite character, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Venus Gospel to Kain's Lance only takes a minor hit of 9 str/magic less at base level. Nirvana from Belladonna is hit harder ya. Don't remember Lightning's, was the first thing I blew to Omega cap lol (Blaze Edge base).
    Ahh, Haha. Yeah< i tried Helter Skelter to Omega and it takes a rather large hit.

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    Treasure Hunter is all I need at this point, all I need is the dam rings. Done all the weapons, and major acc.
    Shouldn't of sold the shit off. I've tried upgrading the neck pieces and then dismantling them with no luck.

    Edit: Need a Ice, Thunder, Earth ring if anyone knows a mission or something that can drop it.

    Heres a List for the people that are curious of the TH award.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    I always used full Debuffs and Faith and would get death to land in either 30sec to 3min, no longer than that.
    Wow, no longer than 3min? I must be doing something wrong, usually just deshell it with fully upgraded malboro wand and 2000+ magic. For me it's as lucky as the first 5min or as long as 30min

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    speaking of growth egg, is it a lot harder to win the Neochu fight with Death than it is to beat Adamantoise using Death? I assume the little dudes wailing on you is a pain but I was able to kill an Ochu during Crystarium Stage 8, it just took a while, so should I be able to do it?
    Trying to get Death off on Neochu is ALOT harder than killing Adamantoise with Death, at least if you're doing this later on, 'cause once you land Death on Neochu you then have to kill the Babies, and if you don't kill at least 3 before your shrould buffs wear off, you're pretty much fucked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyo View Post
    I guess Ill worry about it once I have everything else done, but man that is a ridiculous trophy, at least it adds replay value!?
    Treasure Hunter Trophy is gonna be the real killer, will take a nice amount of time for that I'd say, might be looking close to 100 hours playtime by the time you're done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzer View Post
    Wow, no longer than 3min? I must be doing something wrong, usually just deshell it with fully upgraded malboro wand and 2000+ magic. For me it's as lucky as the first 5min or as long as 30min
    Deshell and Imperil is what I used, but from that list that was posted, the more debuffs you land makes Death % rate go up by 1 per debuff.

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    I am mildy tempted to playthrough the game again so I can be sure I get all of the accessories and keep a list, if I do, it might be better to now since I am fresh off of beating it and have done very little farming. But then I might just say screw it, and just do the missions and upgrade etc. Normally I dont care about getting platinum like I said, kinda wanted to do so with this one. Would suck to be one trophy from it and it be the treasure one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    Trying to get Death off on Neochu is ALOT harder than killing Adamantoise with Death, at least if you're doing this later on, 'cause once you land Death on Neochu you then have to kill the Babies, and if you don't kill at least 3 before your shrould buffs wear off, you're pretty much fucked.
    It's not that bad. I did get about.. 400k free CP from the chapter 13 area (deciptsoul + Wdlilaus trick), but I had no problems taking the fight after. My level 9 was pretty high but far from capped.

    Just need to prep your tank. Vanille, Fang, Hope, I gave Fang physical reduction items that I just had lying around.
    Sab, Sen, Med + Rav, sen, Med. Once death went off, was never at risk of dying; just needed to kill the babies slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyo View Post
    I am mildy tempted to playthrough the game again so I can be sure I get all of the accessories and keep a list, if I do, it might be better to now since I am fresh off of beating it and have done very little farming. But then I might just say screw it, and just do the missions and upgrade etc. Normally I dont care about getting platinum like I said, kinda wanted to do so with this one. Would suck to be one trophy from it and it be the treasure one.
    Pretty sure you can still get them, I don't think any Trophy/Achievement is 100% missable, at least from what I keep hearing. Most of the stuff you can find again in chests, buy, or get from Dismantling other things. But don't quote me on that, just going by hearsay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tulun View Post
    It's not that bad. I did get about.. 400k free CP from the chapter 13 area (deciptsoul + Wdlilaus trick), but I had no problems taking the fight after. My level 9 was pretty high but far from capped.

    Just need to prep your tank. Vanille, Fang, Hope, I gave Fang physical reduction items that I just had lying around.
    Sab, Sen, Med + Rav, sen, Med. Once death went off, was never at risk of dying; just needed to kill the babies slowly.
    Shit can still go wrong if your buffs wear before killing certain amount of babies, unless you have a really good geared Fang and Vanille with about everything close to max, then yea, but that wasn't case for me o:

    Only have a few death attempts before screech kills you, no matter what I did, I just couldn't survive that even with buffs.

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    Screech is pretty much One shot unless you have 14000+ HP lol
    Also it dispels all your currant buffs.

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    Yeah, I forgot it dispels too, lol. I'll be grinding 13 all day tomorrow, trying to get caught up from my week break from WKC I'd rather be playing 13 though.

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    You better hoe <3
    I havent played it today though been busy, might get on and do some Trap farming now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post


    Shit can still go wrong if your buffs wear before killing certain amount of babies, unless you have a really good geared Fang and Vanille with about everything close to max, then yea, but that wasn't case for me o:

    Only have a few death attempts before screech kills you, no matter what I did, I just couldn't survive that even with buffs.
    Not at all. Screech one shots you, but you just retry. I used zero buffs and there was never any risk (Fang had around 9000 hp when I did it).

    I think mostly the fact I had a 30% damage reduction from items was more key than anything; never having to worry about buffing made the fight just a matter of time (took 10 mins total using blizzaga on the babies).

    Some grinding might be required. I went after ch13 and the beautiful CP spot you have 1 chance at, so that likely made it easier.. but if you don't take advantage of that, you're just crazy :D Half an hour or so for 400k CP is worth it.

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    lol so

    Spent about 10 minutes getting Vanille/Snow/Hope ready for Neochu with SAB/SEN/MED, with RAV/SEN/RAV to kill off the babies, upraded my 2 black belts to star level, put on aegisol/fortisol and...

    Death landed on my first try. Babies were only hitting snow for 200 or so each, and I got 5 stars. At crystarium stage 9 I have 3 main jobs maxed, 1 2nd job at stage 2, and a few other random stats here and there, and it was hella easy for me. Yay growth egg!

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