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    I'm not sure what's going on with the turtles but I have gotten Death to finally work. What's really weird is how it went down both times:

    spam Death, nothing
    Vanille's almost dead, summon for more time
    spam more Death, nothing
    party comes back, they start landing debuffs like crazy, clearly the turtle is vulnerable to debuffs while down, yet Death still doesn't work
    turtle gets back up, debuffs fall off (and I assume his resistance to debuffing goes back to normal), Death finally kills him within a few more shots

    I know it's nothing but random coincidence, but still. kinda crazy.

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    summon > get rid of it > mass debuffs > spam death

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    Death has such a low chance of success that any % increase doesn't really seem to effect anything. ("seems". It does help)

    What I usually do for the turtles is start off sab/syn/sab (Vanille/Hope/Fang). I wait till haste is on everyone until I summon, then summon, and spam make him go into gestault mode asap, then make him use the special asap. stay sab/syn/sab until Hope has full buffs on everyone and turtle has full debuffs, then I switch to sab/rav/com and keep spamming death. I can usually stagger the turtle before it gets up and cast death 2-3 times until it gets up.
    Once they stand up I debuff 1 leg, then rav/rav/com it, then med/med/com after it stomps, and switch back and forth until both legs are dead and restart from the beginning.
    I can kill a turtle w/o death landing in about 4-6min, but I also almost have all my crystellumajigthing.

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    So yeah thanks to whoever that was that suggested enfire on Shaolong, shit is ridiculous.

    Fang is swinging for 510k per swing at full stagger/buffs/debuffs, light's swinging for 230k with axis blade (super speed, low stats), and even vanille is breaking off of ruin and just meleeing (if you can call that whip thingy that...) for about 180k a swing.

    I'm about to the point now of taking off my rare catalog for a while just to get more pure gil for treasure hunter lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    summon > get rid of it > mass debuffs > spam death
    I usually leave the summon out until it despawns on it's own just to drive up the chain gauge so death has a better chance at landing.

    On a side note, went 2/8 on Traps last night, got 3 ingots as well. Got Lightning's Omega weapon up to level 78, then I'm going to work on Fang's. Although I probably should go beat the game first, I'm going to be ridiculously overpowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    Right outside the portal to Eden. 2 single sacrifice pulls, 2x sacrifice 1x weird thing, then 2 more double sac pulls(probably messed up the numbers in there somewhere but close enough.. basically all the pulls till you hit soldiers.). Run back through the door that leads to the portal (dont have to go through the portal, just to it), turn around, everything respawned.
    By Eden did you mean Orphan's Cradle? There's a bunch of Sac's along with a Bulbasaur-plant type mob on a bunch of stairs right before the warp point into the cradle itself. Is that it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    ohhh ok. I'll have to check that out. I've heard there's a mission in Taejin's Tower that is repeatable that gives really good gil too, 500k/hr or so.

    although the big downside to both of these methods is no chance of trap drops, which really hurts. saving 2 million gil in one drop is sweet, even if it's really rare.
    Yea, it's mission 24; you'd have to take elevator 6 > 4 > 5 (I think) The stone and mark are in the same room, so virtually no travel time. The mark always drops an item that goes for 6000g along with 6000cp.

    It's better than Behemoth/Wolf for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fren. View Post
    By Eden did you mean Orphan's Cradle? There's a bunch of Sac's along with a Bulbasaur-plant type mob on a bunch of stairs right before the warp point into the cradle itself. Is that it?
    When you take the portal out, it says its warping you to eden. Yeah thats what I meant.

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    hmm, consistent gil vs. a chance at traps...

    I might do that for a while until I'm strong enough to beat turtles without Death. I tried yesterday and it took forever, was a really fun battle but I ultimately died to a yell and even if I won it would have taken too long.

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    I destroy turtles and I still find this faster. If you wanted a number on it... 100k/10 minutes ish? Sure, you could get like 300k from turtles in that same amount of time, or you could get 0.

    Up to you. I like the consistency.

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    I'll probably alternate back and forth. turtles are still nice for the chance at a trap obviously, but when you're relying on a tiny chance of a spell landing (Death) just to get a shot at another tiny chance of a drop happening... meh.

    rather do turtles once I can take them down legit without summoning or Death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    So yeah thanks to whoever that was that suggested enfire on Shaolong, shit is ridiculous.

    Fang is swinging for 510k per swing at full stagger/buffs/debuffs, light's swinging for 230k with axis blade (super speed, low stats), and even vanille is breaking off of ruin and just meleeing (if you can call that whip thingy that...) for about 180k a swing.
    Are they weak to fire, or do you have to manually cast it? Cause otherwise the npc's never cast it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Are they weak to fire, or do you have to manually cast it? Cause otherwise the npc's never cast it
    Debuff with Imperil and it will be the next thing your AI casts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    hmm, consistent gil vs. a chance at traps...

    I might do that for a while until I'm strong enough to beat turtles without Death. I tried yesterday and it took forever, was a really fun battle but I ultimately died to a yell and even if I won it would have taken too long.
    My plan was to do turtles until I had 6 traps, i kept going till 9 because I liked the CP I was getting. When my CP was maxed I started doing perfume, it seems way more consistent in terms of money. Plus I just get more pissed off everytime I get a trap D:

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    yeah, traps need to be worth at LEAST 50k. I mean, throw us a fucking bone here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnwulf View Post
    I usually leave the summon out until it despawns on it's own just to drive up the chain gauge so death has a better chance at landing.

    On a side note, went 2/8 on Traps last night, got 3 ingots as well. Got Lightning's Omega weapon up to level 78, then I'm going to work on Fang's. Although I probably should go beat the game first, I'm going to be ridiculously overpowered.
    If you're really concerned about the chain gauge, just do this:

    Summon/dismiss

    triple sab fully debuf

    sab/rav/rav spam death while they max out chain

    It's not like you need any other paradigms at all for death killing

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    I don't see why you guys are wasting time with turtles anymore, I really dont. I assume you want platinum as its the only reason to be trap farming... but once you get 1 you're golden.

    I got one trap(like 1/60+, was a nightmare), made a nirvana, starred it and dismantled it for 3 traps. I did that pretty early in the platinum hunt so I could use those 3 traps to upgrade to ultimate for the characters I was using to make other things easier (5 star everything etc, which I managed to do before I even got the gold watch). After that, I never touched another turtle again except 1x Long Gui for trophy and maybe 10 Shaos total to max on Dark Matter. I upgraded everything else I needed besides the last 3 ultimates.

    Then, I saved. I upgraded the 3 Genji gloves you get to star, which only takes 30,000 total experience for all 3. Dismantled all 3 = 3 Traps. Upgrade the final 3 ultimates, run to robot for the trophy, get it then quit without saving to have your Genji Gloves back for whatever else you may want to do with the game.

    TLDR: Platinum with 1 trap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    I'll probably alternate back and forth. turtles are still nice for the chance at a trap obviously, but when you're relying on a tiny chance of a spell landing (Death) just to get a shot at another tiny chance of a drop happening... meh.

    rather do turtles once I can take them down legit without summoning or Death.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDmRe9uIur4

    Follow this method for killing turtles at low specs. I used Death for a few kills and that shit was too random. Used the video as a guide and I can kill them pretty easily now. You will get one-shotted if you don't kill it before stagger wears out, but its doable without unlocking the last crystarium level.

    I've been farming the one if Lewiathan Plaza (its the area with the big glass floor with two white behemoth mobs around it. Kill turtle > kill the soldiers (ignore behemoths) go through door > and go back out. You'll regain your TP and respawn the turtle again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    Right outside the portal to Eden. 2 single sacrifice pulls, 2x sacrifice 1x weird thing, then 2 more double sac pulls(probably messed up the numbers in there somewhere but close enough.. basically all the pulls till you hit soldiers.). Run back through the door that leads to the portal (dont have to go through the portal, just to it), turn around, everything respawned.
    Exactly what I did celeras, one day I spent 5 hours farming and didnt see one drop off turtles, so I went back to perfumes, I was making 60-80k per trip.

    Each fight takes no more than 30 seconds and I found it much better than turtles.

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    4/14 Dark matter

    Now I just have to make a ton of cash and I'll 100% this game.

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    The CP from the turtles is nice at this point as well as the Traps and Plats I get from them. But I think I'll move on to the Sacs soon, I have 3 Traps but not enough money to upgrade the weapons lol.

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