What's Better?

[mdkuser]

Hagun: DMG:75 Delay:450 TP Bonus
or
Kurodachi: DMG:40+28 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice.
or
Radennotachi: DMG:79+10 Delay: 450

read the last page. Radennotachi is better than hagun ( ~1%) but not better than rindomaru so not worth it.

[Nightfyre]

Can't use pizza and 5-hit DRK so it's going to depend on your hitrate. Shame Apocalypse isn't 528, would be so good.

With the new STP back it's possible. Whether it's worthwhile may be a different story.

528/Rose/---/WT
Walahra/Chiv/Attila's/Brutal
Aurum/Homam/Ecphoria/Rajas
Fourth/Swift/Homam/Homam

and WS in Rose, Brutal, Aurum, and Rajas (land 2 hits). 420 accuracy with Hasso and pizza +1.

EDIT: Apoc 5-hits with the same setup (obviously can be adjusted for aftermath) and Carbonara. Worth it?

EDIT2: Derp, Cata's not multihit. Have to keep 21 STP in gear equipped on WS to pull it off with Apoc.

[Tsuko_Asura]

read the last page. Radennotachi is better than hagun ( ~1%) but not better than rindomaru so not worth it.

Don't you need like STP+16 Aug. and Usu body/feet for Rindomaru to be better than Hagun?

[Staleyx]

read the last page. Radennotachi is better than hagun ( ~1%) but not better than rindomaru so not worth it.

What about the occ.att twice final tier weapon vs Hagun?

[Nightfyre]

What about the occ.att twice final tier weapon vs Hagun?

If it procs like Joyeuse, Kurodachi destroys the other two.

^

[Raen Ryong]

With the new STP back it's possible. Whether it's worthwhile may be a different story.

528/Rose/---/WT
Walahra/Chiv/Attila's/Brutal
Aurum/Homam/Ecphoria/Rajas
Fourth/Swift/Homam/Homam

and WS in Rose, Brutal, Aurum, and Rajas (land 2 hits). 420 accuracy with Hasso and pizza +1.

EDIT: Apoc 5-hits with the same setup (obviously can be adjusted for aftermath) and Carbonara. Worth it?

EDIT2: Derp, Cata's not multihit. Have to keep 21 STP in gear equipped on WS to pull it off with Apoc.

In each case, if you are still at capped accuracy the 5hit will beat the others, just eyeballing it (assuming the 528 Scythe is the OAT one and that this OAT is ~50%). You're only losing 1% Haste and 2% DA really... the Attack/STR is going to be okay but not even close to the benefit of the 5 hit (+25% WS frequency).

[mdkuser]

Don't you need like STP+16 Aug. and Usu body/feet for Rindomaru to be better than Hagun?

yeah if the non usukane sam uses rose strap + dusk glove + fumas; if he uses hachiman, rindo is better ( but the rindo needed really god stats like acc+ and decent ws+%).

[Kuishen]

yeah if the non usukane sam uses rose strap + dusk glove + fumas; if he uses hachiman, rindo is better ( but the rindo needed really god stats like acc+ and decent ws+%).

So, assuming I don't have any usukane atm, would Radennotachi be better than hagun in any situation? Because if I can save myself 2.5mil, that would be amazing. Especially since I'm still saving up for skadi body.

[fantasticdan]

So what's the best non-relic katana combo now?

mozu/isatu
vs
senji/isatu
vs
kunia(str/atk or dex/acc)/isatu
vs
isatu/perdu

reference:

Spoiler: show

Mozu 43 dmg 227 delay
Isatu 34 dmg 232 delay occasionally attacks twice
Senji 38 dmg 227 delay +6% crit
Kunia 36 dmg 201 delay str +4 atk +12
Kunia 36 dmg 201 delay dex +4 acc +8
Perdu 32 dmg 190 delay atk +10 acc+5

[Deadhands]

Working on a Magician Great Axe and curious which path to pick when I hit the split not sure the math to figure which one is best out of the following or which situations they'd favor.

Perdu Voulge
Bonesplitter DMG: 100 Delay: 504
Luchtaine DMG: 76 Delay: 514 Occ. atk. twice

[Nightfyre]

OAT if it procs at 50%, D:100 otherwise.

[mdkuser]

So, assuming I don't have any usukane atm, would Radennotachi be better than hagun in any situation? Because if I can save myself 2.5mil, that would be amazing. Especially since I'm still saving up for skadi body.

do what you feel best lol. If you are full time on the mob, raden will win by a small amount 1%, because you'll be at ~38% mele with hagun ( = full DD situation); but if you cannot be cure bombed, or have down times, or are tanking you'll be between 30% and 35% where hagun wins slightly.

[konoko]

Whats Better: Using Sarissa with Polearm WSACC+10 and Polearm WSCrit+4% With a Blitz ring and having a 6hit after ws, whenever at least Two hits land or Ecophoria Ring and having a true 6hit?

[Dooom]

Start in true 6-hit, swap to blitz after WS, have a macro for equipping Ecphoria in case of of feather tickle etc.

[Limlight]

Did you mean a 5-hit (4 hits + WS)? A 4-hit setup isn't consistently possible, probably not even worthwhile...

Assuming you meant 5hit and there's a SAM in the party, any roll 7+ will give you a 5-hit with your normal gear. If they roll a 6 and don't use Snake Eyes, you'll need 9 more STP fulltimed to get a 5-hit. Simplest and arguably best approach is Aurum body + Carbonara; lets you WS in whatever and you've got the accuracy to support it since it's just lolmerits. This setup will also work for any party without a SAM provided your COR rolls 7+.

bit late, but yea 5 hit. Sorry was tired.... Thx thats what I was looking for!

[konoko]

Whats Better: Using Sarissa with Polearm WSACC+10 and Polearm WSCrit+4% With a Blitz ring and having a 6hit after ws, whenever at least Two hits land or Ecophoria Ring and having a true 6hit?

Building on this, since i can basically have a 6hit without using Askar while wielding Sarissa, Homam would be a better body choice correct? (i do not have Askar, just wondering if its even worth going after now)

[Ragnus]

Dmg 47 Magian Gun vs. Hellfire+1?

[noodles355]

White Tathlum? Tath+Rajas+Brutal = 23STP. Sarissa needs 22 for True 6hit.
Fuck askar.

Another Drg Q:
Currently TPing in Aurum and Jumping in N.body. I still maintain true 6hit so don't need Barone to offset the STP loss from not using Aurum, which of these would be the ebst damage Jump leg? Askar (8Acc 5Att) AF+1 (9Acc) Barone (2Str 6Att) or Aurum (4Str 4Vit -4Att +7Acc)
I'm leaning towards Aurum but wanted to make sure. With a naked leg slot, my Jump acc is 408, 72 Vit 107 Str 430Att befor any food/buffs

Also for high jump, Aurum or N.body? I'd been using Aurum but just checked and 4hits with aurum + 2 with heca still gives true 6hit, so I can afford to HJ in N.body too if it's better. HJ set without body is 400 (401 when I get the gil to +1 relic legs, broke atm) acc 101Str 429Att befor any food/buffs.

Edit: Also, for colibri, do you think it's worth making a Dex set for Jump/HJ? Could get 119Dex/408Acc Jump and 118Dex/408Acc 119/409 when +1 legs) HJ.

[rog]

Any opinions on punisher/ridill vs rid/joy, with 8 sword, 4 axe merits? I'm thinking the axe should win, but not sure.

[Darriken]

Don't know if this was previously asked but~
I was wondering... before i start...

Ultimatum: DMG:105 Delay528

or

Vengeance: DMG:78 Delay 528 Occ. atk. twice