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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenW View Post
    Penta Thrusting things before Byakko's Haidate

    Enkidu's Subligar vs. Hachiman Hakama
    Askar Dirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenW View Post
    Penta Thrusting things before Byakko's Haidate

    Enkidu's Subligar vs. Hachiman Hakama
    Enkidu's subligar no matter what, even assuming you have terrible accuracy (which you definitely shouldn't) the WS ACC+6 is hardly more than you'll get from the DEX+4 on the subligar.

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    Just managed to get a Vfork finally and dusting dragoon off. Is using sword strap over pole grip best now? Or is there a better option that I'm missing?

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    Ok, so I looked around, but couldnt find any cor damage posts.

    I want to know a few things:

    1. Which is better: joyeuse or ranged tp build? (assuming you have the gear to do either effectively)

    2. Which is better for a head piece for ws: enkidu hat, af +1 or a max strength piece like gnadbod's helm? (I used my add on scenario hat for whm, so that isnt an option)

    Thank you very much and any links to past tested data would be wonderful

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    Quote Originally Posted by avelle View Post
    TP Set:
    http://www.risen-guild.com/avelle/ff...1_22.09.58.jpg

    Just managed to get a Vfork finally and dusting dragoon off. Is using sword strap over pole grip best now? Or is there a better option that I'm missing?
    Your current set allows you to maintain a 6-hit, provided you WS in that body. So, strap > pole in this case.

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    My current penta build is
    input /equip head "Champion's Galea";
    input /equip main "Engetsuto";
    input /equip ammo "Tiphia Sting";
    input /equip sub "Pole Grip";
    input /equip neck "Peacock Charm";
    input /equip ear1 "Minuet Earring";
    input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip body "Haubergeon +1";
    input /equip hands "Ochiudo's Kote";
    input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip ring2 "Iota Ring";
    input /equip back "Forager's Mantle";
    input /equip waist "Warwolf Belt";
    input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
    input /equip feet "Usukane Sune-Ate";

    With this build I'm able to maintain capped accuracy (with the right food or buffs) on the things I use it for (merits, einherjar, salvage). I am wondering if it would be beneficial to replace the warwolf belt (STR +5 DEX +5) with the new T2 VNM fierce belt (attack +15) assuming that I can maintain capped accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avelle View Post
    TP Set:
    http://www.risen-guild.com/avelle/ff...1_22.09.58.jpg

    Just managed to get a Vfork finally and dusting dragoon off. Is using sword strap over pole grip best now? Or is there a better option that I'm missing?
    I'm not a big fan of Sword Strap on DRG myself. Barely an increase over Pole Grip if any and forces you to stay with Aurum Cuirass (not that it is a bad body at all - just not the best at everything). I'd use Pole and swap in things like Zahak's Mail if you have them appropriately.

    With that kind of gear + your wonderful catness you can probably get away with TPing in Forager's Mantle or Aesir Mantle too, shit is situational etc but you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    I'm not a big fan of Sword Strap on DRG myself. Barely an increase over Pole Grip if any and forces you to stay with Aurum Cuirass (not that it is a bad body at all - just not the best at everything). I'd use Pole and swap in things like Zahak's Mail if you have them appropriately.

    With that kind of gear + your wonderful catness you can probably get away with TPing in Forager's Mantle or Aesir Mantle too, shit is situational etc but you should be fine.
    I sold my Zahak's to help fund my Aegis because Fail said the difference between Zahaks/Aurum is too little to care that much about. :3 Or atleast I think he said something like that. If it's a big deal I can always rebuy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    Ok, so I looked around, but couldnt find any cor damage posts.

    I want to know a few things:

    1. Which is better: joyeuse or ranged tp build? (assuming you have the gear to do either effectively)

    2. Which is better for a head piece for ws: enkidu hat, af +1 or a max strength piece like gnadbod's helm? (I used my add on scenario hat for whm, so that isnt an option)

    Thank you very much and any links to past tested data would be wonderful
    WIFE! Smoooooch!

    Someone answer this woman!

    I'm pretty sure joytoy haste build + slugshot > TPing with Ranged Attack for damage, but I dont have Cor so looking for expert advice.

    She's a cute little taru too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    Ok, so I looked around, but couldnt find any cor damage posts.

    I want to know a few things:

    1. Which is better: joyeuse or ranged tp build? (assuming you have the gear to do either effectively)

    2. Which is better for a head piece for ws: enkidu hat, af +1 or a max strength piece like gnadbod's helm? (I used my add on scenario hat for whm, so that isnt an option)

    Thank you very much and any links to past tested data would be wonderful
    1. Joytoy or M.kris (personal preference based on merits etc) if you're getting any form of haste (gear, songs, or spell). Unlike Rng, Cor doesn't get many -ranged delay options to make shooting for tp faster (not to mention cheaper) than meleeing.

    2. AF +1. +str, +agi, AND +r.acc all in one. Doesn't get much better than that.

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    Wyrm Mail +1, Vork guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Wyrm Mail +1, Vork guy.
    Sure, if you have it that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avelle View Post
    I sold my Zahak's to help fund my Aegis because Fail said the difference between Zahaks/Aurum is too little to care that much about. :3 Or atleast I think he said something like that. If it's a big deal I can always rebuy it!
    There is a difference but it's not really a 4M difference <_<!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gosyac View Post
    1. Joytoy or M.kris (personal preference based on merits etc) if you're getting any form of haste (gear, songs, or spell). Unlike Rng, Cor doesn't get many -ranged delay options to make shooting for tp faster (not to mention cheaper) than meleeing.

    2. AF +1. +str, +agi, AND +r.acc all in one. Doesn't get much better than that.
    Thank you, that's what I thought for 2. Has there been any testing on 1? I'd really like to see it if so. One of my friends has a pretty good snapshot build for his cor and swears he saw some damage testing on peacemaker being the best thing you can use. I'd like to have some evidence to prove my build either way. If it's been done, great, otherwise I'll go try to find some sort of a parser to test it myself I guess. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    WIFE! Smoooooch!

    Someone answer this woman!

    I'm pretty sure joytoy haste build + slugshot > TPing with Ranged Attack for damage, but I dont have Cor so looking for expert advice.

    She's a cute little taru too.
    Aw loves hi

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    On Sekki'd Rana's opening for selfdark.

    Hachiman Jinpachi (+1) vs Gnadbhod's Helm vs Ace's Helm vs Hissho Hachimaki

    Rest of gear

    Hagun / Rose / ... / Elv RSE
    ??? / Gorget / Bushi / Brutal
    Haub+1 / AF+1 / Triumph / Rajas
    Forager / Warwolf / Usukane / Rutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuck View Post
    On Sekki'd Rana's opening for selfdark.

    Hachiman Jinpachi (+1) vs Gnadbhod's Helm vs Ace's Helm vs Hissho Hachimaki

    Rest of gear

    Hagun / Rose / ... / Elv RSE
    ??? / Gorget / Bushi / Brutal
    Haub+1 / AF+1 / Triumph / Rajas
    Forager / Warwolf / Usukane / Rutter
    Depends on your acc vs. the mob, but for most stuff your acc will be capped w/ pizza and merits so I'd go with Gnadbhod's Helm. If it's somehow not capped then prolly Hissho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalil View Post
    Your current set allows you to maintain a 6-hit, provided you WS in that body. So, strap > pole in this case.
    explain to me how a 2% increase to amount of attacks for both melee and WS loses to 3% more melee attacks only. Especially with a low hit build.

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