What's Better?

[Tsuko_Asura]

Sushi?

A fair split for SAM is 30/70, and your food is going to have little to no effect on the latter. Capping hit-rate and, subsequently, capping WS frequency is more important than having an additional 50 attack(and it won't even equal out to that, considering sushi is most likely going to end up being more than you need, allowing you to make swaps for more STR/Attk).

[Villian]

Not sure if anyone asked this but for kclub rng with sushi in meripo, hellfire +1 42DMG 7racc/17ratt or the 46 DMG magian gun?

[Auburn]

Don't forget that you can add an evolith to Hellfire+1 for WS: Ranged attack+

[StevenW]

Another question for penta thrust gear, until I get a Byakko's Haidate, should I use:

Enkidu's Subligar or Shura Haidate for penta?

[cdgreg]

I realize there is a disclaimer at the bottom about trolling, but I'm not sure you really are. Are you being serious about not taking DNC serious in end game? If so, it's openupacanofwhoopass time

I'm going to bite here. I've never been in an endgame LS that utilized DNC AT ALL. Fill me in here, where does DNC shine in endgame, and in what cases would a person use DNC if they also had blm, rng, rdm, pld, or brd leveled?

[Yugl]

I'm going to bite here. I've never been in an endgame LS that utilized DNC AT ALL. Fill me in here, where does DNC shine in endgame, and in what cases would a person use DNC if they also had blm, rng, rdm, pld, or brd leveled?

DD 2x
DNC (Haste Samba)
BRD (March 2x)
COR (Depends on whether you're XPing or not)
RDM or WHM (Haste)

That's what he's looking at I'm assuming.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Take the WHM or RDM out of the party, they can haste from elsewhere. You're better off letting one more DD benefit from your buffers.

[Cairthenn]

Draylo is just spewing all sorts of retardation on the forums tonight.

[StevenW]

God damnit I have to go to alla to get a simple question answered

[Draylo]

Draylo is just spewing all sorts of retardation on the forums tonight.

Such as?

[Shinryuu]

If cap acc, sea torque. If not, ancient torque.

If ACC capped, Kubira or another STR+4 neck wins over 6.3 attack.

[Dooom]

Another question for penta thrust gear, until I get a Byakko's Haidate, should I use:

Enkidu's Subligar or Shura Haidate for penta?

Shura.

[Dontkare]

If ACC capped, Kubira or another STR+4 neck wins over 6.3 attack.

How does STR +4 beat the attack from a torque? Unless I'm wrong and somebody tell me if I am, 2STR = 1 Attack (roughly I don't know all the math.) Unless I'm just being trolled here I don't know.

[Shinryuu]

4 STR is 1 fSTR which is 1 DMG, which paired with the attack from the STR (2 or 3) should comfortably beat the attack.

[pchan]

6.3 attack.

7 attack, always...

[Thorny]

Such as?

such as the posts you made

[Nishida]

Another question for penta thrust gear, until I get a Byakko's Haidate, should I use:

Enkidu's Subligar or Shura Haidate for penta?

Do you not have Askar Legs? If not then use Shura unless enkidu's somehow puts you at a lesser hit build.

[noodles355]

Ok, For thief TP: Bravo's or Enkidu's.
I'm doing salvage for skadi, and homam list isn't long, so just curious in which will be better untill either one of those drop. I own both already, and even if Enkidu's win I'd hold onto bravo's for utsu/zergs etc anyway.

I asked this a year or so ago and got told pretty flatly Bravo's. So I've been using them since then. But re-visited this in an alla thread (link) and now am wondering if Enkidu are infact better?

Basically, I'm going by:
Blau/SK dagger combo is 4.7TP, and 22 Attacks/11 Rounds to 100TP
Adding 5STP puts it up to 21 Attacks/11 Rounds.

If you land an even number of hits to 100%TP, it wont do anything, if you land an odd number, it will save one attack round. So we can say it saves one attack round 50% of the time. Is that fair?

So then you're comparing:
1fStr (3% increase to DoT)
2Acc (1% increase to DoT/WS frequency)
STP: 11 rounds to 10, 50% of the time (5% increase to WS frequency)
@60/40 TP/WS ratio, that's a total of 4.8% overall increase.

Compared to Bravo's, which at 48/54% Hastes (35% magic, 13/19% in gear depending on Turban/Rapp or Mirke/Anwig) is 4%/4.54% total increase.

So if I've done this right, Enkidu's is always better than Bravo's if you're uncapped Acc and not getting SV marches/Haste samba.
Is that right?
If so I'll relegate Bravo's to my Feint build, where it's obviously better, and keep Enkidu's for uncapped Acc TP...

[Shinryuu]

7 attack, always...

Oh yeah, my bad. Still <_<

[mdkuser]

I aggree with you except too points:

THF melee/ws split is more like 40% melee 40% ws 20% SA and TA. acc, store tp or haste dont contribute to SA and TA damage. This lowers your estimates abit ( idk if you counted TA and SA as we or melee dmg?)

2 acc is nothing, eat sushi to slove the problem. even a average non merited thf will be able to get above 400 accuracy with bravo and sushi. which means those 2 acc rarely matter.