What's Better?

[Xajii]

I'd stick with Moli until you get a magian scythe done (OAT).



Pole. Moli is a natural 7 hit /nin with brutal and rajas. When /sam you have a fake 6 hit, you need to land 2 of the 3 additional hits on guillotine. If you only land 1 additional hit you can swap in chiv and ecphoria to make up the missing TP. If you are acc capped without hauby then you can swap in an STP body and switch pole grip for sword strap.

Thanks a bunch, Moli/Pole is what I've been doing.

As far as the OAT goes the good one (with D 88 etc) seems essentially impossible. Is Ultimatum a good scythe, which looks totaly doable, or is the d 45 one still better (prob not)?

[Tsuko_Asura]

If you can't get OAT, go with Ultimatum, but OAT really isn't hard to get.

[smafdi]

For blm general nuking, xp/trash mobs and hnm Hecatae's cape vs gleeman's cape?

[Khajit]

If you dont need the Dint Hecatae supposedly wins so vs trash mobs at minimum it wins.

[Crizto]

Probably a bit of both. I plan on getting at least 1 point in dia3 either way. Is 3/5 - 5/5 slow2 a big difference or would it be ok to drop 2 slow2 for 2 dia3?

It would be fine, I have 3/5 Slow 2 and I sure can't tell the difference between someone w/ capped and someone w/o.

[ronin sparthos]

Sam/Drg

Which earring should I use, Brutal or Bushi. Thanks.

Brutal.

[Martinius]

Brutal.

brutal for hagun and tomoe, bushi for soboro.

[Dooom]

brutal for hagun, bushi for soboro, aesir for tomoe (can make a case for an acc earring when using polearm tho).

+7 attack and an (untested, afaik) conserve TP trait vs 5% DA and 1sTP? I can't see how the Aesir earring can possibly win, unless someone can demonstrate that the conserve TP makes a quantifiable difference.

[requim]

Which of the magian scythes were worth doing?

How does perdu sickle compare to the new magian scythes in relation effort required?

What would be the expected time to complete a scythe that would be superior to perdu?

Or are they all close enough to perdu that can my obsession with blm melee justify getting perdu and not feel compelled to bother with any scythe trial? :D

[Martinius]

+7 attack and an (untested, afaik) conserve TP trait vs 5% DA and 1sTP? I can't see how the Aesir earring can possibly win, unless someone can demonstrate that the conserve TP makes a quantifiable difference.

dur, no you're totally right, serves me right for posting before i had any caffeine. will adjust my post.

[Bikpik]

Which of the magian scythes were worth doing?

How does perdu sickle compare to the new magian scythes in relation effort required?

What would be the expected time to complete a scythe that would be superior to perdu?

Or are they all close enough to perdu that can my obsession with blm melee justify getting perdu and not feel compelled to bother with any scythe trial? :D

OAT > +Dmg > +Str/+Att > perdu.

IIRC

[requim]

I'm not going to waste my time mercing for the OAT, how much better was dmg and str/atk versus perdu? Like immediately noticeable or a slight improvement worth doing?

[Samonez]

Mirke Wadecor for BLU:

Accuracy +10, Attack +10

Accuracy+10, Double Attack +2%

Double Attack +2%, Critical Hit Rate +3%

Double Attack +2%, Store TP +4

[Darkmagi]

make a WS body if blu is your only job. I don't think any combo will beat having a refresh body for tp atleast.

[Nightfyre]

make a WS body if blu is your only job. I don't think any combo will beat having a refresh body for tp atleast.

^

If you don't have Mirage Jubbah, acc/DW is a nice TP piece and decent WS piece. acc/atk is your best WS option and still a very good TP piece.

[Samonez]

^

If you don't have Mirage Jubbah, acc/DW is a nice TP piece and decent WS piece. acc/atk is your best WS option and still a very good TP piece.

yeah, I don't have the Relic body, I idle in an Ixion Cloak when not meleeing or casting.

[CrosisX]

For Quick Draw - Corsair's Gun +1 or Murderer with supremacy earring.

[Thorny]

corsairs gun +1

[Talli]

Anyone actually tested these versus anything worth fighting? i have done some pwnage of TW mobs for base numbers which will follow but need to know if anyone has numbers comparing them on high lvl or HNm type mobs.

This was all with same gear and demon arrows.

Valis Bow: Normal hit 405, Crit 506, Sidewinder 2520

Astrild DMG80: Normal hit 438, Crit 547, Sidewinder 2670

basically would the added stats on Valis factor in more vs high lvl mobs/hnms? Best thing i could think of testing this on is ixion but dont kill that anymore.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

[Nocturne]

Anyone actually tested these versus anything worth fighting? i have done some pwnage of TW mobs for base numbers which will follow but need to know if anyone has numbers comparing them on high lvl or HNm type mobs.

This was all with same gear and demon arrows.

Valis Bow: Normal hit 405, Crit 506, Sidewinder 2520

Astrild DMG80: Normal hit 438, Crit 547, Sidewinder 2670

basically would the added stats on Valis factor in more vs high lvl mobs/hnms? Best thing i could think of testing this on is ixion but dont kill that anymore.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

With the mobs being Too Weak that you tested on... The ranged attack +23 from Vali's was (likely) being wasted. I don't know for certain, as I know only simple game mechanics, but I would think Vali's Bow would do more versus higher level mobs for the shear fact that you likely aren't capped on attack. Not sure if it would do more than Astrild though, perhaps someone else can answer that.