What's Better?

[Karbuncle]

Oily Trousers or Enkidu Leggings for THF WS? What about just SA or TA?

I have 4/5 Heca, missing legs, Pixie, Delta earring, Gorget, Love Torque, Foragers, Warwolf belt etc.

What Raen said is pretty much right.

Would over all avoid using Hecatomb body like the plague unless you're rocking Mercy Stroke if you're stacking it with SA/TA, Antares harness and Dragon harness will outperform it for every other weaponskill with/without SA/TA if i recall correctly.

[ryuke_xi]

What kind of gear should I be using for Leaden Salute?

I have a decent BLM and have access to some gear like Novio, Moldavite and Uggy pendant.

I hear Leaden Salute is modified by MAB is it worth using those over Vision/Drones/AGI+8Set earrings? What about over Light Gorget?

Warwolf over Scouter's or LifeBelt w/ MAB+2 augmented?

Thanks :]

[Raen Ryong]

Would over all avoid using Hecatomb body like the plague unless you're rocking Mercy Stroke if you're stacking it with SA/TA, Antares harness and Dragon harness will outperform it for every other weaponskill with/without SA/TA if i recall correctly.

Unless you desperately need the accuracy (which shouldn't happen most of the time unless you're trying to push a meat build on something low-end enough to DE/EV).

[Karbuncle]

Unless you desperately need the accuracy (which shouldn't happen most of the time unless you're trying to push a meat build on something low-end enough to DE/EV).

Aye, even then though Antares has DEX8 and Acc8 which is more than hecatomb!

[lolwut]

What kind of gear should I be using for Leaden Salute?

I have a decent BLM and have access to some gear like Novio, Moldavite and Uggy pendant.

I hear Leaden Salute is modified by MAB is it worth using those over Vision/Drones/AGI+8Set earrings? What about over Light Gorget?

Warwolf over Scouter's or LifeBelt w/ MAB+2 augmented?

Thanks :]

My set is:

input /equip ear1 "Novio Earring";
input /equip legs "Nimue's Tights";
input /equip ranged "Martial Gun";
input /equip ear2 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip neck "Soil Gorget";
input /equip ring1 "Breeze Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Breeze Ring";
input /equip feet "Leaping Boots";
input /equip hands "Rover's Gloves";
input /equip body "Mirke Wardecors";
input /equip back "Commander's Cape";
input /equip sub "Reaver Grip +1";
input /equip head "Emperor Hairpin";
input /equip main "Pluto's Staff";
input /equip waist "Scouter's Rope";

I'm sure there's better ways to gear for it, but I haven't put a lot of effort into it yet.

[Carrilei]

What kind of gear should I be using for Leaden Salute?

I have a decent BLM and have access to some gear like Novio, Moldavite and Uggy pendant.

I hear Leaden Salute is modified by MAB is it worth using those over Vision/Drones/AGI+8Set earrings? What about over Light Gorget?

Warwolf over Scouter's or LifeBelt w/ MAB+2 augmented?

Thanks :]

Pendant over Gorget, Novio/Moldavite over AGI, and Scouter's. Ran some math below just because. Assumes using Martial, a strong Leaden set, and an enemy INT of 80.


2 * ( AGI - EnemyINT ) + [ fTP * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * AGI ] ] ) ]

a) Gorget (0.1 fTP)
2 * ( 103 - 80 ) + [ 4.35 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 103 ] ] ) ]
2 * ( 23 ) + [ 446 ]
492.. assuming 19 MaB, 492 * 1.19 = 585

Uggalepih (8 MaB)
2 * ( 103 - 80 ) + [ 4.25 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 103 ] ] ) ]
2 * ( 23 ) + 436
482.. assuming 27 MaB, 482 * 1.27 = 612



b) 8 AGI earrings
2 * (111 - 80 ) + [ 4.25 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 111 ] ] ) ]
2 * 31 + 444
506.. assuming 15 MaB, 506 * 1.15 = 581

Novio + Moldavite (12 MaB)
2 * ( 103 - 80 ) + [ 4.25 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 103 ] ] ) ]
2 * ( 23 ) + 436
482.. assuming 27 MaB, 482 * 1.27 = 612


I don't understand how Warwolf Belt is helping Leaden, unless you're meaning it has some augment? Scouters 4 AGI vs 2 MaB on a Life Belt would be:

c) 2 MaB
2 * ( 99 - 80 ) + [ 4.25 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 99 ] ] ) ]
2 * ( 19 ) + 432
470.. assuming 29 MaB, 470 * 1.29 = 606

4 AGI
2 * ( 103 - 80 ) + [ 4.25 * ( 77 + [ 0.83 * [ 0.3 * 103 ] ] ) ]
2 * ( 23 ) + 436
482.. assuming 27 MaB, 482 * 1.27 = 612


For some general guidelines, one point of AGI will usually improve Leaden's damage by 3-4 points of damage. 1 MaB is a 1% increase.

[Carrilei]

Makes sense. I was considering making a synergy jerkin for a total of 6% snapshot for tp, and just putting more acc in other slots to compensate. If it's not enough of a tp boost to make up for the lost dmg with increased ws though, I suppose it's a moot point.

Skadi's Cuirie has 14 Raac and 5 Raat. Base Ebur Jerkin has 7 Raac, 5 Raat, and Snapshot. Raat cancels out, you have 7 Raac vs. the Snapshot as a base.

I'm no Evolith expert, but.. from what I can see, the best you can do here is Raac and Raat versus particular families, and you'd specifically want the Ebur Jerkin to get both Raac & Raat. If you bothered to do it and got high enough amounts, it would clearly be better than the Cuirie for ranged TP against that family.

[ryuke_xi]

I appreciate the awesome advice on Leaden Salute.

I have some more questions :3

For slug shot should I be using Enkidu Hands, Commodore Gants or Crimson Finger Gauntlets. I'm using AF2 at the moment but would 4STR be worth 5AGI?

Vulcans/Reaver+1/Martial/Corbullet
AF1/Gorget/Vision/Drone
Denali/AF2 Hands/Rajas/Behe+1
Amemet+1/Bucc's/Dusk/AF1+1

Obviously going to get AF+1 hat and body and swap those in if we ever do Temenos :<.

Any other advice would be great too. I'm new at COR :3.

[Carrilei]

Really impossible to answer when I don't know what you're Slugging, and it's an unusual set.. Shit's situational as they say, and this is one confusing puzzle. I can say w.hands are it for Slug, unless you have untouchable WS gear, and can afford Skadi's Bazubands from a raac perspective and still stay capped. Even then, wyrmal are essential for adjusting if necessary.

It's 5 am and I'm overtired, but I can't understand where the 4 STR vs 5 AGI is coming from. Commodore has 2-3 AGI. But yes 4 STR > 5 AGI almost always.


Wonder why that RPG thing is up there, I must've clicked something...

[Buffy]

For elemental obis from sea and AF2 pants for blm from Bastok.

The bonus is purely damage on both of these pieces, correct? In other words, there would be no accuracy bonus associated with using either of these pieces with for other spells (i.e. wind obi for silence, etc).

[Chen]

just damage

[requim]

When using Othinus' bow, when do you use holy bolts over darksteel bolts?

Would an easy rule of thumb be when the average added effect of holy bolts is below 18 damage (difference in ammo) or would the ammos' different base damage be less than 18(50-32)?

If I do decide to use holy bolts with obow, when would I want to gear for MND vs ratk? Is there a standard ratio? Suzaku's feet seem like 15 MND would be a for sure over AF2 boots, but what about a 2mnd earring vs 1str or 3agi? Light staff vs fire/franny?

For machine gun you're just piling on the MND and using trueflight, but since obow has high per shot damage and can still slugshot I'm a bit confused on what gear to swap out.

For an obow, what would you want to use for wep/sub, earrings, waist, and legs (for TPing)?

[nitsuj]

I appreciate the awesome advice on Leaden Salute.

I have some more questions :3

For slug shot should I be using Enkidu Hands, Commodore Gants or Crimson Finger Gauntlets. I'm using AF2 at the moment but would 4STR be worth 5AGI?

Vulcans/Reaver+1/Martial/Corbullet
AF1/Gorget/Vision/Drone
Denali/AF2 Hands/Rajas/Behe+1
Amemet+1/Bucc's/Dusk/AF1+1

Obviously going to get AF+1 hat and body and swap those in if we ever do Temenos :<.

Any other advice would be great too. I'm new at COR :3.

I use wyrmal on slug, because it is highly erratic with it's accuracy, it seems. I don't mind subbing in Behemoth+1 ring and Dusk trousers as well to make it hit (does about 800-1200 on /WAR on bird merits depending on buffs active).

I layer STR on with Detonator and hit about the same #'s. If anyone is hitting much higher than me, I'm all ears. I'm always looking to improve my damage.

[Aero]

When using Othinus' bow, when do you use holy bolts over darksteel bolts?

Would an easy rule of thumb be when the average added effect of holy bolts is below 18 damage (difference in ammo) or would the ammos' different base damage be less than 18(50-32)?

I think it is for every 100 damage you do per shot; at least 30 of that damage has to be holy damage for it to be better than DS bolts.

If I do decide to use holy bolts with obow, when would I want to gear for MND vs ratk? Is there a standard ratio? Suzaku's feet seem like 15 MND would be a for sure over AF2 boots, but what about a 2mnd earring vs 1str or 3agi? Light staff vs fire/franny?

I personally just use DS bolts so I cant give you much 1st hand experiences, but Id just gear it like you would normally; sans suzy feet. As for light staff vs. fire; go with fire staff as it will benefit you both in WSing and gaining TP.

For machine gun you're just piling on the MND and using trueflight, but since obow has high per shot damage and can still slugshot I'm a bit confused on what gear to swap out.

Im not sure what you're talking about. Just swap into DS bolt and WS like normal.

For an obow, what would you want to use for wep/sub, earrings, waist, and legs (for TPing)?

Id gear it like any other bolt; Vulcan/Axe/rose, Triumphx2, Scouts/Bucca, Hachiryu.

[Devinry]

Decided to do a Kuina trial katana for shits and giggles and I'm not sure which would be best. I'm aware I can do multiple of them, but as mind-numbing as the trials are so far, let's just start with this first one. >_> Maybe I'll tackle another later on.

The ones that jump out at me are:

Dmg 36, Delay 201, DEX+4, Acc+8
Dmg 36, Delay 201, STR+4, Atk+12
Dmg 36, Delay 201, AGI+4, Eva+12 (for soloing)

There's also the 'Add effect: impairs evasion/defense' or 'Add effect: impairs acc' ones, which could be decent as well for DDing or soloing, respectively.

Or another option is to just wait until the update and see how they expand the trials, but I figured I'd throw this out there for now and see if any is overwhelmingly a must have.

inb4 'lolnin', 'level a real job', etc. Like I said, this is mostly for fun for those rare occasions I get to play nin.

[Botosi]

Zilant ring (Dex +6 Acc+3) or Blitz Ring/Snipers +1 for Drk and War, what do you guys think is best? I have pretty much every piece of gear for them except Apoc/Bravura if that matters.

[ZhiGaruda]

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[ZhiGaruda]

Oh god stupid robot unicorn MAKE IT STOP OMMGGGGG

[Khajit]

Wouldnt war be wearing a rune chopper and as such not NEED blitz to cap haste?