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    Fucking time travel

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    I think you are reading into the queen thing. I took it as more of 'bitch please of course I am'

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    Queen of her castle, or some such. That's how I took it.

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    Apparently there are different trailers for The Angels Take Manhattan.

    In one of the trailers there was this:
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    Pretty freaking creepy



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    God freaking damn. Moffat created the creepiest enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohemgee View Post
    God freaking damn. Moffat created the creepiest enemies.
    I know right?? When I first saw "Blink", it actually creeped me out a bit. Something so simple turned into something frightening. I would rank the Vashta Nerada a close second to the Weeping Angels though.

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    The WW's are definitely one of the creepier things in the Who-verse, and I second the comment about the Vashta Nerada. However, the race that has creeped me out the most was in 'The Impossible Planet' -- the beast possessed Ood. That shit down right made me feel uncomfortable during the first viewing.

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    Busy doing press for his scifi action flick Looper, Rian Johnson hopped onto Reddit for an Ask Me Anything, where he was of course asked about all manner of things.

    Having already directed several episodes of TV, Johnson was asked if he was interested in doing any more and he responded with:

    I’d love to do a Game of Thrones.

    But what I’d really kill to try, although it would be terrifying because I’m such a big fan of it? Doctor Who.

    Doctor Who isn’t afraid to let big supporters come on-board, as it has done with Neil Gaiman penning two episodes, including one coming up this season.

    Rian’s ability to tell stories with gorgeous visuals on a small-screen budget can already be seen on his two Breaking Bad episodes from season three and five already.

    This is coming on the heels off another big name, Peter Jackson, saying he’d want to have a go at directing. Executive Producer Caro Skinner has already responded to Jackson:

    It is beyond wonderful that Peter is a fan of the show and it’s beyond flattering that he’d even think about it… I’m absolutely sure that we couldn’t afford him but, you know, we can always negotiate. His enthusiasm is just fantastic of course.

    And according to The Wikato Times, Luther creator Neal Cross has already volunteered his services to pen a script for Jackson. He too lives in New Zealand, and has scripted an episode for the second half of this season.

    Exactly what Doctor Who needs really, isn’t it? We already have all-star writers, why not all-star directors?
    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/...plot-thickens/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohemgee View Post
    Can we get an inception like time graph for these 5 episodes? MS Paint is accepted.
    Well it has been somewhat confirmed that we are seeing the episodes in the correct order with the exception of episode 3 and 4 so we can put that to rest. However, the one thing that has bothered me this season is the large amounts of time between the Doctors visit. So I went back through Season 5, 6, and what we have of season 7 and tried to put together a timeline.

    Spoiler tagged it in case some people haven't seen the earlier seasons..also cause it's a lot of stuff...

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    In order to really determine the timeline we first need to figure out exactly how old Amy is and when she was born.
    We know that the cracks in the universe from season 5 revolve around a specific date: June 26th, 2010. This was in fact Amy's wedding day. We also know that the Doctor picked up Amy on the eve of her wedding. So therefore June 25th, 2010 is when Amy began traveling with the Doctor. When the Doctor showed up that night, she stated he was 2 years late after the events of The Eleventh Hour, so that episode primarily took place in 2008. When the Doctor showed up in 2008, Amy mentioned that he promised he would return after 5 minutes, but instead took him 12 years. So 1996 is when the young Amelia Pond first met the Doctor (She mentioned she was 7) meaning she was born in 1989. With all of that out of the way, this is what I believe the timeline is: (a) denotes alternate timeline

    1989 - Amelia Pond is born

    1996 - Seven year old Amelia Pond is praying to Santa asking for help with the crack in her wall. The Doctor crash lands in her back yard and after investigating the crack in her wall, promises to return in 5 minutes. Amelia runs to get her suitcase so she can travel with the Doctor and patiently waits outside*(The Eleventh Hour)

    1996(a) - Young Amelia goes to the museum to see the Pandorica and rescue her future self (The Pandorica opens)

    2008 - The Doctor returns and find Amelia (now going by the name Amy) has grown up and that his 5 minutes turned into 12 years. They deal with Prisoner Zero and the Doctor leaves promising to return (The Eleventh Hour)

    June 25th, 2010 - The Doctor returns again to pick Amy up but realizes he is late again. They take off in the Tardis for their adventures (The Eleventh Hour)

    The Doctor and Amy travel together
    - The Beast Below
    - The Victory of the Daleks
    - The Time of Angels
    - Flesh and Stone

    June 25th, 2010 - Amy asks the Doctor to return her back to this date and shows him her wedding dress and that she is to marry Rory the next day. (Flesh and Stone)

    June 25th, 2010 - That same night, the Doctor crashes Rory's Stag party and takes them to Venice for a romantic trip. (The Vampires of Venice)

    The Doctor, Amy, and Rory travel together
    - Amy's Choice
    - The Hungry Earth
    - Cold Blood

    The Doctor and Amy travel together
    - Vincent and the Doctor
    - The Lodger **
    - The Pandorica Opens
    - The Big Bang (a)

    June 26th, 2010 - Amy and Rory's Wedding. The Doctor is remembered back into existance

    The Doctor, Amy, and Rory Travel together
    - A Christmas Carol
    - Off screen adventures between April 2010 and February 2011??

    February 2011 - The Doctor drops the Ponds off. It is referenced in "The Impossible Astronaut" that they haven't seen the Doctor for 2 months

    April 2011 - The Ponds get an invitation to meet in America with coordinates. (The Impossible Astronaut)

    April 19th, 2011 - Amy and Rory go shopping at a department store possibly in preparation for America. The Doctor spots them from the distance as a girl asks for Amy's autograph since she is now a model for a prefume line Petrichor which means the smell of dust and rain (Closing Time) ***

    April 22nd, 2011 - Amy, Rory, and River watch as the Doctor is Shot by an astronaut in a spacesuit (The Impossible Astronaut)

    April 22nd, 2011(a) - Alternate timeline where River does NOT kill the Doctor at Lake Silenceo (The Wedding of River Song)

    The Doctor, Rory, and Amy's travels
    - Day of the Moon
    - The Curse of the Black Spot
    - The Doctors Wife
    - The Rebel Flesh
    - The Almost People
    - A good Man Goes to War (River takes the Ponds home)

    September 2011 Amy and Rory reaches out to the Doctor by creating a large sign with his name in a corn field. When he arrives, Amy asks if he had found Melody since he's had all summer so I am guessing it's roughly September at this point (Let's Kill Hitler)

    The Doctor, Rory, and Amy's travels
    - Night Terrors
    - The Girl who waited
    - The God Complex

    September 2011??? - The Doctor drops Amy and Rory off after the God Complex and also gives Rory a new car and the Ponds a new flat and takes off. They don't hear from him for a while and they presume he's still dead after all that they did.

    December 2013 - The Doctor visits Amy and Rory around Christmas and Amy scolds him for not visiting sooner since it had been 2 years that he was "dead" (The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe)

    April 2016 - Pond Life 1

    May 2016 - Pond Life 2 (From the Doctor's POV Dinosaurs on a Spaceship happened recently)

    June 2016 - Pond Life 3

    July 2016 - Pond Life 4

    August 2016 - Pond Life 5

    August 2016 - Asylum of the Daleks (Rory gives Amy divorce papers)

    June 2017 - Amy, Rory, and Brian get picked up by the Doctor and taken to a spaceship for an adventure. Amy mentions it has been 10 months since they last saw the Doctor. (Dinosaurs on a Spaceship)

    July 2017 - The invasion of the Cubes begin (The Power of Three)****

    October 2017 - Amy becomes a brides maid for her friend (The Power of Three)

    June 26th, 2018 - Rory and Amy's wedding anniversary. They throw a party which the Doctor secretly crashes and takes them for an adventure (The Power of Three)

    The Doctor, Amy, and Rory travel together
    - Savoy Hotel
    - Henry VII
    - "A Town Called Mercy"

    June 26th, 2018 - Back at the dinner party but they've been gone for 7 weeks. (The Power of Three)

    September 18th, 2018 - The Angels take Manhattan Not aired at the time of writing however, set reports show Amy Reading a newspaper with this particular date.


    * This one is a bit of a spoiler/speculation
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    Moffat has said that in "The Angels take Manhattan" there is a tie in to "The Eleventh Hour". There is a scene at the end where it is morning after young Amelia has been waiting for the Doctor all night outside sitting on her suitcase. We hear the Tardis engines as she looks up and smiles, and then the scene fades to older Amy on her wedding night hearing the same sounds. There is speculation that there will be a post credit scene after episode 5 where the Doctor goes back to visit young Amelia


    ** In the Lodger on Craig's fridge, there is a advertisement to see a Vincent van Gogh exibit March 17th - August 20th

    *** In the episode "Closing Time", Craigs newspaper reads April 19th, 2011. Most people believe that since Petrichor was the psychic password in "The Doctor's Wife" which happens later on, it was thought that chronologically for the Ponds, "Closing Time" came after "The Doctor's Wife" in terms of what the Ponds experienced. However, I believe that the psychic password was chosen by the Tardis due to knowing Amy's perfume line, and not the other way around (The perfume line coming from the Tardis Psychic password)

    **** In "The Power of Three", Amy mentions in the begining that it has been 10 years since the Doctor was in their lives. In 2008 they dealt with the Atraxi so 10 years would mean 2018. However, I think she rounded up from 9 years because she was either just rounding for the heck of it, or she was counting the amount of time she spent with the Doctor traveling + the 9 years. At any rate, it couldn't be 2018 at the start of the episode because it takes place over an entire year, and "The Angels Take Manhattan" takes place in 2018 (Amy reads a newspaper while they have a picnic).


    With all of these time gaps, it's easy to see the theme with the Doctor and the Ponds. He doesn't seem to be able to show up at the right time which leads to the whole "The Girl who Waited" thing that Amy has doing for her.

    Anyways, this is the best I could come up with, if you see any errors please let me know

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    Well that was sufficiently sad. Like many, I thought Rory was safe at the end, but of course they fooled us.

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    So many feels... I don't want them

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    Raggedy Man... Goodbye.


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    I want to know how the angels got that entire scheme setup. They just move in and take over a building with plans to use it like they did and people just start popping up from 50 years in the future. And so they keep them there, feed them, keep them alive, etc? How, seriously, do they accomplish that?
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    Am I reading into it too much?


    Also, why did River go to New York in 1938 in the first place?

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    Dammit, man tear was shed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooshywooshy View Post
    Dammit, man tear was shed
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
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    Also, why did River go to New York in 1938 in the first place?
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    The guy mentioned that she was "researching/studying the Angels" so I imagine, as a Professor(she did point that out that she is now a Professor!), she was doing exactly that? Drawn to there because of the high concentration of them and the weird whatever it was that kept the Doctor's TARDIS from entering.

    Maybe the rules are a little sketchy, but I thought as long as you're looking in the general direction(you can still actually see them) of a Weeping Angel, they were quantum locked? Or do you have to be staring DIRECTLY at them. I question this because of the ending. Both the Doctor and River were looking to Amy when she turned her back to the Angel. The Angel was right behind her, so very much in view of both of them.

    Still, whoever came up with the speculation that that was how it was going to end was right. Damn that ending, though. Damn it to hell. Oh, everything is ok! Let's go ho-NOPE!


    Now to wait until Christmas. =(

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    This episode messes with my whole timeline lol because they said they were in 2012 at the cemetery unless they traveled back to 2012 from 2017/18. I need to get a look at that newspaper again...

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    Fuck, I'm sorry, but the tears in my eyes right now aren't at all manly, I'm having a hard time staying composed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooshywooshy View Post
    Dammit, man tear was shed
    Yep...

    Also:
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    Did anyone else catch the panel that the Doctor was checking himself out in before seeing River? So the TARDIS is made by Rolls Royce Motor Company?!

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