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    silly arabs

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    A while ago they also attempted to sentence a Turkish man to death for saying "goddammit"

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    sorry gotta necro this, omg.

    first of all, this sorcerer is supposedly a muslim (since he went for pilgrimage)
    then by default he should believe in the divinity of Allah.

    Claiming to foresee the future is a divine characteristic which humans do not possess. So this man claims to be divine this contradicts with his belief and also defies Allah. when he claims to know the future with Allah then he is challenging the creator.

    and not only that, but he is actually publicly announcing his "services" to the people to make money...oh oh and he also has the nerve to come to Mecca and worship who he challenged...cmon now.
    and I think this is unacceptable in any major religion.

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    and therefore he should be killed?

    what?

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    who gives a fuck. homie shouldnt have been lying on tv. lets just let the saudis handle this

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    If he attempts to make money off it jail him up for fraud. Death Sentence is nothing but a murder from the hands of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    sorry gotta necro this, omg.

    first of all, this sorcerer is supposedly a muslim (since he went for pilgrimage)
    then by default he should believe in the divinity of Allah.

    Claiming to foresee the future is a divine characteristic which humans do not possess. So this man claims to be divine this contradicts with his belief and also defies Allah. when he claims to know the future with Allah then he is challenging the creator.

    and not only that, but he is actually publicly announcing his "services" to the people to make money...oh oh and he also has the nerve to come to Mecca and worship who he challenged...cmon now.
    and I think this is unacceptable in any major religion.
    I was waiting for you to respond, drafting up ludacris justifications in my head that you would use, but not really thinking you'd actually try and defend this silliness. But alas, you never fail to impress.

    Wow, just wow man. You really are bat shit crazy.

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    He's a fucking entertainer. There's an entire industry of palm readers and fortune tellers. We aren't locking them up for fraud. Just another case of the middle east setting itself back 500 years. shocking isn't it.

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    this needs to set a precedent. honestly. John Edwards shouldn't be allowed to live.

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    Isn't the fact that he DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING a big enough clue to these morons that he isn't actually a sorcerer and is at worst a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    I was waiting for you to respond, drafting up ludacris justifications in my head that you would use, but not really thinking you'd actually try and defend this silliness. But alas, you never fail to impress.

    Wow, just wow man. You really are bat shit crazy.
    only because i follow what i believe.

    you're focusing on the lying aspect more than the challenge/infidelity of his actions.

    i guess i didnt make it clear enough, lying does not get you killed.

    lets suppose, a man was defying the government wouldnt he be punished? wouldnt he be stopped? executed yes.

    The U.S invaded two countries because they thought its been challenged/attacked.

    i was reading in to the story, first of all, this man signed a contract with the TV channel to do such things, and like mentioned here, he didnt perform any of the "sorcery" in Saudi.

    I still stand by my opinion, but in this case, i think the channel should be closed and whoever was in control should be in court, not this man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    only because i follow what i believe.

    you're focusing on the lying aspect more than the challenge/infidelity of his actions.

    i guess i didnt make it clear enough, lying does not get you killed.

    lets suppose, a man was defying the government wouldnt he be punished? wouldnt he be stopped? executed yes.

    The U.S invaded two countries because they thought its been challenged/attacked.

    i was reading in to the story, first of all, this man signed a contract with the TV channel to do such things, and like mentioned here, he didnt perform any of the "sorcery" in Saudi.

    I still stand by my opinion, but in this case, i think the channel should be closed and whoever was in control should be in court, not this man.
    You're justifying the murder of a man by a government (not even his own government), while on a peaceful religious pilgramige, for SORCERY.

    How is that not insanity?

    More importantly: Do you believe you should kill someone for practicing "sorcery". Im making the assumption you actually belive in "sorcery".

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    i guess you quote shit but dont actually read it

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    John edwards getting executed would be pretty nice actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas
    I guess you quote shit but dont actually read it
    You backed up your justification, stated you still stand by your statement, then ended with a "they should close the channel though instead" to cover your ass.

    It isnt us not reading, it's you being retarded.

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    it hurts replying to you. ill just retype what i said

    You're justifying the murder of a man by a government (not even his own government), while on a peaceful religious pilgramige, for SORCERY.
    in this case like i said, the owners of the channel should be mainly held responsible for this, since they were the main reason for this man to have the reputation he had and they publicly provided his services.

    him being on a peaceful pilgrimage is just lol really, i think i made it clear how he defies God then goes for a pilgrimage to God is just retarded.

    is it clear soldier? hows killing innocent people in iraq/afghan/palestine going for you?
    oh right, if its sorcery you shout human rights, if its innocent civilians its what do you guys call it? collateral damage? /laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    it hurts replying to you. ill just retype what i said
    Pretty much what you always do, just restate what you originally said and assume we just dont understand you, rather than you being retarded.


    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    in this case like i said, the owners of the channel should be mainly held responsible for this, since they were the main reason for this man to have the reputation he had and they publicly provided his services.
    Held responsible for what? Entertainment on the *gasp* television? What would be a fitting punishment for a TV show in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    him being on a peaceful pilgrimage is just lol really, i think i made it clear how he defies God then goes for a pilgrimage to God is just retarded.
    Oh no, he defies Alah, kill him! KILL THE SORCERER!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    is it clear soldier? hows killing innocent people in iraq/afghan/palestine going for you?
    oh right, if its sorcery you cannot execute him, if its innocent civilians its what do you guys call it? collateral damage? /laugh
    You really have no idea what you're talking about, it's embarrasing. You're justifying MURDERING an innocent man due to "sorcery" versus the effects of war in several unstable regions. Oh, and news flash: US isnt killing anyone in Palestine. But I really need to get back to work, have to finish torturing children and murdering babies here in Afghanistan. Im not rebuilding their infrastructure or securing the stability of their democratic (Islamic democratic at that) goverment or anything.. Its all just murder and infadels!

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    We just dont understand you
    no you dont understand, you've proven that on many occasions

    Held responsible for what? Entertainment on the *gasp* television?
    Oh no, he defies Allah
    in your sarcasm i sense that you do get the idea.



    and if this is your plan on rebuilding a country, then certainly you're doing it wrong.

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    Does anyone else besides me find this hilariously comical? Even though its tragic at the same time.

    For this line of reasoning to work, they have to believe in "sorcery". I'm literally cracking up right now.

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