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  1. #1
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    Is it time to delete out “name holding mules” off the Destination Servers?

    Once I heard about the server merge, I quickly created a mule on my destination server to “hold” my name till the merge is done. My plan was to hold it till the merge is complete and the delete it prior to logging on as my main character. This would have freed up my name and I would have made sure that no one stole it from me in that time.

    Now however, I noticed that SE has closed the character creation service on source and destination servers till the merge is done. This basically means that since no one can create characters on those servers, my name will not be taken and my mule can be deleted now.

    So my question is: Am I thinking this out correctly? Should I just delete my “name holding mule” now, and let the merge take care of itself, or should I hold on to my mule until the merge is done, then delete it and log on as main as I planned.

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    There's a "Random Question Thread" which this should probably belong here, but I'm not one of those random assholes who just says that, so here's your answer:

    I would personally keep it. Yes, if character creation is closed, no one is going to be taking your name on that server for the time being, but, after the merger is over, someone on your original server that needs to change their name could steal your name if they login before you.

    So I'd say just keep it. Once it's over, your character will be in a Yellow name, at that point you can delete the temp and take its name.

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    Melee Summoner
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    Ok Julian, thanks for the advice and thanks for the answer. I was under the impression that if I deleted it now, once the merger is complete, my name would be transferred over to the destination server and it would be impossible for someone to take it.

    I guess what you are suggesting is that it would still be in limbo so to speak until I log on officially?

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    Hm, didn't think of that. Yeah I guess it's safe.

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    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantic Dream View Post
    Ok Julian, thanks for the advice and thanks for the answer. I was under the impression that if I deleted it now, once the merger is complete, my name would be transferred over to the destination server and it would be impossible for someone to take it.
    Exactly this. You may delete your character at any point, and I suggest you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Exactly this. You may delete your character at any point, and I suggest you do.
    My only concern (and this is an odd one) is that even if I delete my mule now so close to the merge, the servers won t have time to "update" themselves on my destination server and will still flag my name as yellow, leaving it in this odd limbo stage where it s not mine yet but it is free to take. I wouldn t want that.

    Am I just being crazy?

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    Fuck I wanted to change my name and was gonna intentionally create a mule on Quetzal with my current name so I could force myself into a change situation. Looks like I waited too long

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    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantic Dream View Post
    My only concern (and this is an odd one) is that even if I delete my mule now so close to the merge, the servers won t have time to "update" themselves on my destination server and will still flag my name as yellow, leaving it in this odd limbo stage where it s not mine yet but it is free to take. I wouldn t want that.

    Am I just being crazy?
    It's instantaneous.

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    edit: wrong thread. dont take the name Richardd, you punks

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    CoP Dynamis
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    I actually just answered this in the Random Question thread yesterday lol.

    Here's how you do it:
    Make the mule on the new server with the name you want to have when you get there. When you go to do the transfer, it gives you the option to transfer every character (including that mule) to any server on a one by one basis (ie. not all characters have to go to the same destination).

    So, when you do the transfer, just send your current character to the new server and the one that was holding the name for you to another random server. That will free up the name right as you transfer, so no chance of losing it.

    *edit
    I just realized that it may be different for you with a "forced" transfer. But the good news is that yes, the name is definitely released instantaneously. So you should just be able to delete the name-holder and then take that name with the main character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soho View Post

    *edit
    I just realized that it may be different for you with a "forced" transfer. But the good news is that yes, the name is definitely released instantaneously. So you should just be able to delete the name-holder and then take that name with the main character.
    But with the servers being locked and preventing anyone from creating new characters on destination/source worlds, what is the point of having a name holding mule? Or did I misunderstand you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardd View Post
    edit: wrong thread. dont take the name Richardd, you punks
    Taru Richardd?

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    so i spent 50 dollars on all the douche names i could find from Fairy.

    I just thought i'd say that to strike paranoia.

    mini-edit: I did this the very second the world transfers came out.

    Also- :3

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    You bastard.

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    the mob was white and unclaimed, so its cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantic Dream View Post
    But with the servers being locked and preventing anyone from creating new characters on destination/source worlds, what is the point of having a name holding mule? Or did I misunderstand you?
    Well, my one and only experience with a server transfer was just a week or two ago (we jumped before the lock on transfers). Are you sure the destination/source worlds are locked for creating new characters? Or just locked for initiating a transfer? I haven't tested it.

    Even if your name is already taken on the destination server, I think it's a good idea to go reserve something else that you like if possible. Think about how many other people who are transferring over will also be forced to change their names to something new. Consequently, all the "good" names will start disappearing very quickly once people are able to log in again.

    Good luck to you either way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrish View Post
    so i spent 50 dollars on all the douche names i could find from Fairy.

    I just thought i'd say that to strike paranoia.

    mini-edit: I did this the very second the world transfers came out.

    Also- :3
    I had to make a mule on Sylph just so I can change my name. I was expecting someone like you to do it for me gdi . Also, plz post douche list kthnx, I thought most of the douches had already left Fairy. (ib4whoosh'd)

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    Saw this on Alla. Is there actually a remote possibility of this happening?

    Everyone is assuming that names will be instantly removed from the name database since this is what happens on current servers, there is no guarantee this will happen after a huge merge, they could treat the name database with kid gloves and dissalow names being wiped from it permanently as noramlly happens. It's entirely possibly the names will still remain on the server as taken, everyone that made name holding mules who don't delete the before the merge could end up either taking their own names or not being able to play for a while.

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    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantic Dream View Post
    Saw this on Alla. Is there actually a remote possibility of this happening?

    Everyone is assuming that names will be instantly removed from the name database since this is what happens on current servers, there is no guarantee this will happen after a huge merge, they could treat the name database with kid gloves and dissalow names being wiped from it permanently as noramlly happens. It's entirely possibly the names will still remain on the server as taken, everyone that made name holding mules who don't delete the before the merge could end up either taking their own names or not being able to play for a while.
    No.

    Bolded the part where you went wrong.

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    Because server mergers have never happened before, and we dont know the after affects. Though I wouldnt put it passed SE to make some huge fowl up of this, and cause every charcter of host and destination servers to be completly wiped, and all backup data containing their information disappear from the world.

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