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  1. #41
    CoP Dynamis
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    is my pup still gonna fail ?

  2. #42
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    Ever since I finished leveling RNG years ago, I refused to get a PPA cause I knew I would shoot it off. And not just shoot it off, but do so in a absolutely stupid instance (like when I tossed my Smart Grenade while on SAM in Salvage, wtf was I doing pulling?) I probably would have shot my PPA off during a campaign fight in Batallia Downs while trying to regain my crappy buffer.

    Thus, just for that PPA fix, this update is worth it for me.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno View Post
    The following changes have been made to puppetmaster:

    * Hand-to-hand combat rating has been raised from rank C to B+.
    * The puppetmaster's level will now be factored into the extent that maneuvers enhance automaton stats.
    *The rate of enhancement will be adjusted for when puppetmaster is used as a support job, or when a level restriction is in place.
    * The effects of the following attachments have been adjusted:
    Armor Plate / Armor Plate II / Auto-Repair Kit / Auto-Repair Kit II / Mana Tank / Mana Tank II
    * The performance of automaton frames has been adjusted.
    * The ranged accuracy of automatons is no longer affected by distance to the target.
    I don't mind them giving pups B+ H2H instead of A, but if the other adjustments cause me to not being able to one shot tigers in Xarcabard [S] with a x2 ice blizzard4, I'll quit.

    Although....if "The performance of automaton frames has been adjusted." means the automaton will prioritize Cures over -na, I may stay.

  4. #44
    Hydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
    lol @ bst update. 'Hey guys lets give BST a boost buy making jugs sell for 1g to NPC so that more people will put them an AH instead, so BSTs have more jugs.'

    God forbid they give us new pets, the ability to charm more pets, or raise our Axe to A+, you know, something usefull.

    Does SE really hate BST this much?
    SE knows so many people were NPCing jugs like Sun Water..

    Only jugs changed in this update are Eft and Flytrap. Flytraps TP move selection is kind of meh so Eft was the only 'new' decent jug. Good deal.

    Also Sun Water was not added to any Synergy recipe, so the one jug that BST have been wanting has not been changed at all. Everyone knows that 1000 damage every 3 minutes is too overpowered.

  5. #45
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    All I can say is...
    PUP update <3
    Hoping for no bs with the new avatar quests though

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubuis View Post
    Hopefully they add orichalem ores to Mount Z and add Khromas to Halvung and increase the chance of mining both.
    If they dare up the drop rate on k.ore I could see it dropping down to 50K~ fairly quickly (IF that were to happen, and if they increased it even by just 5%). I mean it's hard enough keeping the price at 350K~ on Ramuh. Now if they just added O.Ore to Mount Z and K.Ore to Halvung without adjusting the drop rate that would be okay. It would keep the price high enough for people to make money though I'm sure people upgrading salvage bodies would disagree with me. >_>

  7. #47
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    The following changes have been made to puppetmaster:

    * Hand-to-hand combat rating has been raised from rank C to B+

    Yeager's opinion on this? Hand-to-hand from C to B+ is still an improvement I'm happy with. Sure it's not the "A" rating that was stated during VanaFest last month, but I still think the difference will be noticeable.

    * The puppetmaster's level will now be factored into the extent that maneuvers enhance automaton stats.

    This could be a good thing, since before it was always +1 STR with 1 Fire Maneuver, then +2 or +3 for each stacked maneuver. If at Lv. 75 we get +3 STR per 1 Fire Maneuver, that will just increase our automaton's damage output as if there were 3 Fire Maneuvers up. Possible goodness here.

    *The rate of enhancement will be adjusted for when puppetmaster is used as a support job, or when a level restriction is in place.

    Naturally, going /PUP should be halved just like other subs are....see /DNC /BRD

    * The effects of the following attachments have been adjusted:
    Armor Plate / Armor Plate II / Auto-Repair Kit / Auto-Repair Kit II / Mana Tank / Mana Tank II

    Regarding the Armor Plate adjustments.....they better be some damn good adjustments. Mana Tank adjustments could be really good too depending on how much MP/tic is recovered when Dark Maneuver is up. But any good PUP knows the ol' DAD trick to recover their Automaton's MP.

    * The performance of automaton frames has been adjusted.

    THIS COULD BE BAD!!! If they screw with my RNG frame and gimp it, I will be overly pissed. But if they left that alone and gave a lil' enhancement to the Valoredge (aka PLD) frame as well as the mage frame then I'm ok with that. Just don't mess with my RNG frame! Seriously, RNG puppet is fine as it is, but if SE is giving RNG frame a lil' boost, then woot! Guess I'll find out later.

    * The ranged accuracy of automatons is no longer affected by distance to the target.

    For me this last point was a non-issue since I always deployed my RNG automaton within melee distance for faster TP gains. But during some campaigns when I was in a DD mood and had RNG frame up, fighting mobs with AoE that can kill I deployed from distance, and I would notice the lack of R.Acc then. But that's the only time I would do that. 9 times out of 10 my RNG puppet is meleeing with me, thus a non-issue for me.

  8. #48
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    Wonder what all the new items are, epecially campaign items. Hope they aren't all high rank. It's so hard to get max rank in Campaign unless you've been doing it since it was released or live in campaign. @.@
    Seems like a solid update, hope there are nice new things to get. :D

  9. #49
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    The depop conditions for the following Notorious Monsters have been adjusted:
    Oupire / Scylla / Zirnitra / Lugh / Elatha / Buarainech / Tethra / Ethniu



    YES!!! Take that you ToD riggers

    (i need my eburs)

  10. #50
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    As a fully merited, well geared PUP and fully merited, well geared MNK I'm happy PUP didn't get A H2H. PUP is already rediculously strong what with the puppet and didn't really need A ranked H2H.

    Now if those puppet changes give my little friend a bit of survivability in AOE situations (previously puppets took normal "mob" damage from other mobs, which meant almost no level correction and def did almost nothing for them) I'll be one happy camper, especially since I just got my Pantin Cape last weekend. /joy

  11. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeager View Post
    The following changes have been made to puppetmaster:

    * Hand-to-hand combat rating has been raised from rank C to B+

    Yeager's opinion on this? Hand-to-hand from C to B+ is still an improvement I'm happy with. Sure it's not the "A" rating that was stated during VanaFest last month, but I still think the difference will be noticeable.

    * The puppetmaster's level will now be factored into the extent that maneuvers enhance automaton stats.

    This could be a good thing, since before it was always +1 STR with 1 Fire Maneuver, then +2 or +3 for each stacked maneuver. If at Lv. 75 we get +3 STR per 1 Fire Maneuver, that will just increase our automaton's damage output as if there were 3 Fire Maneuvers up. Possible goodness here.

    *The rate of enhancement will be adjusted for when puppetmaster is used as a support job, or when a level restriction is in place.

    Naturally, going /PUP should be halved just like other subs are....see /DNC /BRD

    * The effects of the following attachments have been adjusted:
    Armor Plate / Armor Plate II / Auto-Repair Kit / Auto-Repair Kit II / Mana Tank / Mana Tank II

    Regarding the Armor Plate adjustments.....they better be some damn good adjustments. Mana Tank adjustments could be really good too depending on how much MP/tic is recovered when Dark Maneuver is up. But any good PUP knows the ol' DAD trick to recover their Automaton's MP.

    * The performance of automaton frames has been adjusted.

    THIS COULD BE BAD!!! If they screw with my RNG frame and gimp it, I will be overly pissed. But if they left that alone and gave a lil' enhancement to the Valoredge (aka PLD) frame as well as the mage frame then I'm ok with that. Just don't mess with my RNG frame! Seriously, RNG puppet is fine as it is, but if SE is giving RNG frame a lil' boost, then woot! Guess I'll find out later.

    * The ranged accuracy of automatons is no longer affected by distance to the target.

    For me this last point was a non-issue since I always deployed my RNG automaton within melee distance for faster TP gains. But during some campaigns when I was in a DD mood and had RNG frame up, fighting mobs with AoE that can kill I deployed from distance, and I would notice the lack of R.Acc then. But that's the only time I would do that. 9 times out of 10 my RNG puppet is meleeing with me, thus a non-issue for me.
    What I'm curious is how they bosted Harley Frame since it was mentioned in Vana Fest to be adjusted along with Valoredge.

  12. #52
    Tekki's Bitch
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    prz make quiver for hightail bullet im on my 3rd

  13. #53
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    Hopefully soon someone will have the info for the avatar quest up.

  14. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttons View Post
    Wonder what all the new items are, epecially campaign items. Hope they aren't all high rank. It's so hard to get max rank in Campaign unless you've been doing it since it was released or live in campaign. @.@
    Seems like a solid update, hope there are nice new things to get. :D
    Its not really that bad just the 5 day wait sucks. The only one that requires a decent amount of campaigning is when you get to medals.

    Really wish they would just reduce the ??? repop time for everything..

  15. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riiaider View Post
    Its not really that bad just the 5 day wait sucks. The only one that requires a decent amount of campaigning is when you get to medals.

    Really wish they would just reduce the ??? repop time for everything..
    Yeah the timer is the reason I don't have max rank yet. I always do some campaigning, advance a rank and then during the wait I find other stuff to do and forget about campaign. @.@

  16. #56
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    The following changes have been made to the "A Crystalline Prophecy", "A Moogle Kupo d'Etat", and "A Shantotto Ascension" add-on scenarios:

    * Certain key items necessary to progress through the add-on scenarios are now available for purchase from the NPC Squintrox Dryeyes (Port Jeuno, G-8 ).
    *These items will only be available to players for whom the following mission names are visible in the mission log for the corresponding scenario(s).
    A Crystalline Prophecy -> A Crystalline Prophecy (Fin.)
    A Moogle Kupo d'Etat -> A Moogle Kupo d'Etat (Fin.)
    A Shantotto Ascension -> A Shantotto Ascension (Fin.)
    * The maximum attribute values, as well as the chance of receiving high-attribute augments have been increased. The chances of receiving augmented items as a reward have also been raised.


    This is interesting - I wonder which key items they're gonna sell? Does this mean we can rejig the augments on the reward gear without having to schlep all the way back through the battles again? I could switch out my ugly-as-sin Tassets for some shiny Tatsumororlolol... uh, dragon pants.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoForte View Post
    What I'm curious is how they bosted Harley Frame since it was mentioned in Vana Fest to be adjusted along with Valoredge.
    No idea. I'm always using either RNG, WHM, or BLM puppets anyhow. I very seldom use Harley frame unless I'm just screwing around or farming stuff as PUP/THF.

    Now if WHM and BLM puppets fall under the "Harlequin Frame" category....then I don't know what SE has in mind. You never know with them...they'll say "A Rating h2h for PUP" one month, then the next month say "B+ rating h2h for PUP". NO CONSISTENCY!!!

  18. #58
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    No A skill for PUPs! HAR! I'm mildly happy about the change in Conquest Point ammos. I lost 3 Gold Muskateer Bolts years ago & gave up on getting another.

  19. #59
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    So basically the maintenance period associated with this update is not due to significant content update but the mergers. So, damn it! will probably be most of the maintenance period just for the server mergers before they do the server updates so dat mining won't start until we are like 75% into the maintenance period.

  20. #60
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    I read the BST jugs selling prices as:

    NPCs will now sell BST jugs at a lower price.

    Anyone else get that is what it meant? And booo B+, I wanted A-....
    Still good though.

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