Dat Mining Discussion

[TummieGaruda]

I'm hoping they are all force popped though. They seem to drop 1 ring at best and using an alliance of 18 ppl to camp a 24 hour respawn pop wyrm that pops in 8 DIFFERENT zones for 1 ring doesn't seem right...

Force pop or epic fail on SE's part.

No not a forced pop via trade item. You talk to Assai Nybaem in Ru'Lude Gardens and pay gil to get an item. The NPC talks about how in Abyssea there are fierce monsters and you can pull them into this world via having item(s) in your possession. After you get the items you go to specific zones and do the /heal command and you get some kind of message that the item is glowing. Basically you use the item as a compass to pull the invisible monster into our world.

[NervosaEternal]

I take 0.1% drop rate but let me fight whenever i want, thats what i consider content, not 0.1% chance of claiming a hnm that only few will ever kill until they bored

only have an 0.1% of claim if your linkshell has no skill... sorry to say

[NervosaEternal]

No not a forced pop via trade item. You talk to Assai Nybaem in Ru'Lude Gardens and pay gil to get an item. The NPC talks about how in Abyssea there are fierce monsters and you can pull them into this world via having item(s) in your possession. After you get the items you go to specific zones and do the /heal command and you get some kind of message that the item is glowing. Basically you use the item as a compass to pull the invisible monster into our world.

Wait wut

[Yabby]

To me the fairest HNM camps in this game are the ones you cannot bot to claim on spawn, i.e worm and pony, tbh i enjoy hunting these two.

and unfortunately yes, you have to deal with competition for HNM, tbh if you could claim everyday your linkshells would cap too fast for the content to draw out, thus HNM ect would become pointless to do after a point.

These are still botted... Botters know the second it spawns and can be afk while doing it, where as a non botter has to focus most of the window and still has Widescan lag, etc.

[enoch]

I COME IN SEARCH OF NEW EVOLITHS.

[TummieGaruda]

Wait wut

Pulled from the .dats the NPC explains how to "pop" or pull the Voidwalker Notorious Monsters (VNM) into our world

Dialog Table Entry 06936 You wish to know how to use the ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻?
There is no trick to it. Allow me to demonstrate.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06937 While in possession of ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻6≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻, simply assume a resting pose.
I'm given to understand it is second nature to all adventurers.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06938 Doing so will cause your ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻ to react. Pertinent information can be gleaned by observing the magnitude of its vibration and the manner of light emitted.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06939 Should neither reaction occur, take it to mean that no Voidwalkers roam the area.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06940 Should it vibrate softly but emit no light, take it to mean that Voidwalkers have recently passed through and may soon return.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06941 Should it vibrate softly and emit a gentle light, take it to mean that Voidwalkers presently roam the area.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06942 Now, pay particular attention to what I'm about to explain.
The reaction of the ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻ will change once a predetermined distance from a Voidwalker has been closed.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06943 From that point onwards, the magnitude of the vibration corresponds directly to the creature's strength.
Based on this knowledge, it is your decision whether to pursue it further.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06944 The gentle glow of light, on the other hand, will intensify to become a radiant beam pointing in the direction of the creature.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06945 Following that beam to its end will cause the heretofore invisible Voidwalker to cross fully over into this world and take form.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06946 This precise moment of encounter with an Abyssean, I have dubbed “contact.”≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06947 Not only are Abysseans known to be temperamental and unpredictable; there are those that demonstrate a degree of cunning and guile far beyond that seen in this world.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06948 Consider yourself warned.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06949 For as surely as the beam of light emitted by the ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻ guides you to a Voidwalker, so too does it guide the Voidwalker to you. Be ever mindful of this fact.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06950 Know also that not one, but numerous Voidwalkers may roam the land at any given time, and the readings indicate only the creature nearest you.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06951 You would do well to check the readings regularly, as a sudden change in the light's direction could mean a different Voidwalker has wandered your way.≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 06952 Voidwalkers will only reveal their true form at the point of contact, and seeking one only to be met with another is a scenario all adventurers want to avoid.≺Prompt≻

[NervosaEternal]

These are still botted... Botters know the second it spawns and can be afk while doing it, where as a non botter has to focus most of the window and still has Widescan lag, etc.

this is true but you cannot bot claim either of them, you can use radar or w/e it is and stand on dead bodies to see when it pops in your zone but it doesnt ensure the claim at all. many times my linkshells have lost the worm and most of our scanners were useing the bodies instead of widescans.

[Castellano]

Unless they left out the part where the new body has STP, Usukane is still a better TP piece, and the accuracy is completely irrelevant during WS, meaning its exactly the same as Osode.

Should be usukane is better for tp "if you have an amano" considering usu body won't change your hit build unless you do (assuming you have usu feet). New body is legit for SAM.

[Yabby]

this is true but you cannot bot claim either of them, you can use radar or w/e it is and stand on dead bodies to see when it pops in your zone but it doesnt ensure the claim at all. many times my linkshells have lost the worm and most of our scanners were useing the bodies instead of widescans.

I know it does give a slightly better chance for claiming for non botters, but not by much. Ether way it wouldn't matter. You keep the things they way they are people will bitch, you make it pop spawn and people still bitch.

[Senary]

I know it does give a slightly better chance for claiming for non botters, but not by much. Ether way it wouldn't matter. You keep the things they way they are people will bitch, you make it pop spawn and people still bitch.

Yes, because everyone but SE realizes that instancing is the way to go.

[NervosaEternal]

I know it does give a slightly better chance for claiming for non botters, but not by much. Ether way it wouldn't matter. You keep the things they way they are people will bitch, you make it pop spawn and people still bitch.

I agree totally, ppl will QQ no matter what.

[TummieGaruda]

btw the VNM's are found in both the past and the present.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Probably the title for new missions or title for killing shadowlord.

[Fou-Lu]

So the Yilbegan - Wyrm NM can pop in 16 different zones?

[ringthree]

Tummie, btw, I love you.

[Fiendishone]

http://zombiels.com/box.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9HloS9Ukto

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[NervosaEternal]

Im wondering if more than one can be up at a time if thats not the case, 16 zones jeez ~~; either that or it could pop in 16 different zones one of which can have it pop depending on who does the /heal 1st, or however you pop it. but whats ganna be the repop on it, can you do a few a day, is it only one pop a day ect ect. this is shit i want to know. i also hope they drop more than a fuckin ring, seriously.

[Byrthnoth]

So, 6 new NMs, 6 crafting items dropped off them, 6 new crafted (HQable) items.

New HNM fights (including CRAAAAAAB) : Incubus Earring, Pythia Sash, Fylgja Torque, Ire Torque, Lmg Medallion, Toxon Belt
Alexander : Collosus gear
Odin : Aesir gear
Shadow Lord (potentially Splitting Heirs-esque battle) : Nocturne Gear and Nightfall
Second from top AN Rewards? : Forth Mantle, R.K. Sigil ring, Mrc.Mjr. Charm
Medal of Altana AN Rewards : Campaign WS Weapons (Griffinclaw = Sandy, Lex = Bastok, Samudra = Windurst), and possibly the Liverys (a la Conquest Points)
New gimpy looking Ex or R/Ex weapons : Probably the set of starting weapons for Trials of Magian
Crafted from probably easy to obtain ingredients : All those new teleport earrings.

[Stromgarde]

Has a MV/AV list been posted anywhere yet?

[Kuishen]

Anybody know the math on whether the Haste +6 helm would be better for DRK zerg (with feint obviously)?

Or would the HP+30 on Turban win out?

Trying to find a practical use for that thing other than generic Feint setups and Utsusemi macros.