Dat Mining Discussion

[cassiraa]

^I guess not nerfing that is giving us something, in a sense?

Not seeing anything particularly awesome for SMNs beyond the new avatars. Am I missing some epic gear for SMN somewhere?

Easier access to the rings/necklaces/obi that give pet Acc/attk/m.acc/m.attk as rewards for the expansion stuff. Nothing else that's amazing.

[Demosthenes11]

Go away

don't take your frustration out on me.
dead job as been dead...since it was released

harsh reality, se doesn't care, etc

[Kairos]

The most interesting thing gear wise for smn is the fact that it will be easier to repeat mini-expansion missions and the rate of receiving augmented items will be increased. Other than that, one thing that popped out in my mind was the drain/aspir earring and the Asier Torque for the dark magic skill which is nice to have on smn/sch.

[Indalecia]

Can't wait for rdm to be phased out, the princess concept is getting old

[Ivve]

I can't believe SMNs got 2 new avatars and are seriously still whining about something. There's just no pleasing some people.

As for RDM being a "princess", either you're trolling or we've taken a time warp to the allakhazam board in 2004. Either way it's hilarious!

[Baelorn]

I find it interesting how a lot of people are assuming most of the good gear from this update has to be very expensive or very hard to get. It's possible that this gear will be more accessible because of the planned level cap changes along with the Magian line of quests.

[Indalecia]

GDI, I could care less about ava's. I want a FIX for pretty much the same reasons demosthetroll alluded to but didn't state.

[ronin sparthos]

I can't believe SMNs got 2 new avatars and are seriously still whining about something. There's just no pleasing some people.

As for RDM being a "princess", either you're trolling or we've taken a time warp to the allakhazam board in 2004. Either way it's hilarious!

lol if you consider Alex/Odin the new promised avatars because really they are 2 new JAs that appear, blow your 2hr then vanish.

Look at it this way: It's sad when the avatar battle rewards almost ALL trump getting the actual pact from said avatar.

[Gwynplaine]

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[Demosthenes11]

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LOL oh god im so glad i dont craft

[cassiraa]

I can't believe SMNs got 2 new avatars and are seriously still whining about something. There's just no pleasing some people.

They're not so much avatars as they are alternatives to magical aoe astral flow. With this patch, presumably, we can
a) Magical Damage
b) Chance to ohko an enemy, which tbh I doubt is going to work terribly well
c) Possible 3-min mighty guard for zergs?

[Demosthenes11]

im looking into the future and seeing nobody using odin ever

[Nugget]

I will follow.

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So white box king gear won't be so uncommon anymore.

[Eligor]

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holy fuck

[Fwahm]

I see Odin being used when a group aggros 2-3 extra EPs, and the sleeper isn't effective.

[spooky]

Is there any more stuff still to be data mined? I found some HQ recipies, but no NQs, and there don't seem to be any new fish even though the Inside the Belly quest was updated (but I suppose existing fish could now be used.)
Maybe when they release more zones we'll see some new fish then.

[Shadida]

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This was there before this patch.

[Francisco]

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...fuck.

[MaachaQ]

im looking into the future and seeing nobody using odin ever

I'm gonna use him just to see him once in a while, because I wanted a Pony and this is the closest I can get ^^;

[Yubar]

Oh come on, what were you expecting from a conservative video game company? They could add in so many things to fix smn and bst, but they won't, because they probably think they'll become too powerful.

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Nah, I'm just kidding they hate those jobs, because they hate Pokemon.