Dat Mining Discussion

[Narol]

omg spharai can get +6 dmg?

Ummm if that is true then mnk just became top DD again hands down.

"MNK" doesn't become top DD. MNKs with the time/money to get and upgrade Spharai do. This is only a very tiny fraction of the MNKs out there.

[Indalecia]

...wow

[jimbobsonofgod]

Anybody got a rough idea how long it would take to Base to Best a Magian weapon ?
(on sylph so BooHoo for me).

[michaeldue]

And how do you get hold of a Base Magians weapon ???

[catmato]

And how do you get hold of a Base Magians weapon ???

Judging from this and other threads, I'd say from the box next to the magian moogle.

[michaeldue]

Ok ty :D Im on Cerberus - so im one of those people that cant login atm ;;

[Priran]

There is a chest next to the moogle with the base, blank weapons. They are free.

[catmato]

Ok ty :D Im on Cerberus - so im one of those people that cant login atm ;;

Leviathan here. Same deal.

[chazzyphizzle]

Any ideas on how to get allied ring yet?

[Plow]

For those that are wondering:

Squintrox sells all key items needed for fight entry, for a small amount of gold and some beastman's seals.


examples:

3 seedpsalls = 500g, 5 seals

mega bonanza kupon = 2000g, 20 seals

[Rocl]

That's... annoying... because I give all my seals to the BCNM guy

[byte]

On this topic.. just went to the goblin (Have ACP/AMK complete but not ASA) and he would only sell me ACP/AMK key items. I guess this means you have to do it the hard way, first time through .

That's... annoying... because I give all my seals to the BCNM guy

You can get them out

[Karbuncle]

dumb question, Can you trade in said items for Keys to augment item chest things ⌐ ⌐

[Eleidon]

That's... annoying... because I give all my seals to the BCNM guy

The goblin withdraws them directly from your account with Shami, so you're in luck there.

[byte]

dumb question, Can you trade in said items for Keys to augment item chest things ⌐ ⌐

No, the only new items he sells are the ones to get into BCNMs, not the keys needed to open coffer. You would have to win BCNM, then get a key from it.

[Appie]

btw seems like its VERY easy to upgreade Relic lol
Gungnir for example (and i think all are on same pattern You need to make 1500 Geirskogul on Amorph-type mobs(EP+)

Seriously? Considering I did 3500 WS's for my Ascetics Fury, this should be a breeze! That's for the full upgrade or just that first stage? Since you mention Conqueror and stuff going +2 then dmg+8, I assume there are 2 steps to this quest?

Edit: hiya relic augment topic.

[onisama]

Ragnarok +9

Interesting, maybe now Ragnarok wont be a so-so relic.

[TummieGaruda]

Anybody got a rough idea how long it would take to Base to Best a Magian weapon ?
(on sylph so BooHoo for me).

Base: Side-Sword

Final: Antea
DMG: 23 Delay 228
DMG+17 Delay+36
Occ. Att Twice
RDM/PLD/BLU

Trials Used:
150 > 151 > 152 > 158 > 159 > 160

Trials 150-152 require you to kill a specific NM three times for each trial.
For instance, Trial 150 requires 3 kills from Serporard Ishtar. So for 150-152 you are looking at killing 9 NM's so assuming 2 hr repops you are looking at 18 hours just for that stage.


Trial 158 requires killing 400 Bird mobs that yield exp with the sword

Trial 159 requires killing 300 Cluster mobs

Trial 160 is the real time sink. It requires 10 Ruthven Nails which drops from Lord Ruthven (VNM). Lord Ruthven can drop anywhere from 0-2 Nails per fight, and the Nails are Exclusive so this part here is the largest time investment.

[Nermie]

Base: Side-Sword

Final: Antea
DMG: 23 Delay 228
DMG+17 Delay+36
Occ. Att Twice
RDM/PLD/BLU

Trials Used:
150 > 151 > 152 > 158 > 159 > 160

Trials 150-152 require you to kill a specific NM three times for each trial.
For instance, Trial 150 requires 3 kills from Serporard Ishtar. So for 150-152 you are looking at killing 9 NM's so assuming 2 hr repops you are looking at 18 hours just for that stage.


Trial 158 requires killing 400 Bird mobs that yield exp with the sword

Trial 159 requires killing 300 Cluster mobs

Trial 160 is the real time sink. It requires 10 Ruthven Nails which drops from Lord Ruthven (VNM). Lord Ruthven can drop anywhere from 0-2 Nails per fight, and the Nails are Exclusive so this part here is the largest time investment.

I don't use a sword that much so feel free to chime in. I'm just trying to start a discussion comparing the two:

Assuming 45% DA (approx. Joyeuse DA rate)

DPS

• Antea has base 13.18 DPS
• Joyeuse has base 13.59 DPS

TP

• (Assuming 0% TP at start, 0% Store TP)
  
  • Antea
    
    • 7% TP per hit
    • 10 attack rounds
    • 44.0 seconds
  • Joyeuse
    
    • 6% TP per hit
    • 12 attack rounds
    • 44.4 seconds
  
  
• (Assuming 0% TP at start, 6% Store TP - Brutal + Rajas)
  
  • Antea
    
    • 7.4% TP per hit
    • 10 attack rounds
    • 44.0 seconds
  • Joyeuse
    
    • 6.3% TP per hit
    • 11 attack rounds
    • 40.7 seconds
  
  
• (Assuming at least 1 hit from previous WS, 6% Store TP - Brutal + Rajas)
  
  • Antea
    
    • 7.4% TP per hit
    • 9 attack rounds
    • 39.6 seconds
  • Joyeuse
    
    • 6.3% TP per hit
    • 11 attack rounds
    • 40.7 seconds

Summary:

• If Antea DA rate is same as Joyeuse then ...
• Antea wins for TP spam assuming 6% Store TP (Brutal + Rajas) after first WS (and assuming WS doesn't miss)
• Antea can be worn by BLU (Joyeuse cannot), Joyeuse can be worn by other jobs (COR and WAR come to mind)
• Antea has higher DMG rating = higher WS damage

[michaeldue]

http://ffxi-europe.com/FreeHaut.jpg

Free Hauteclaire? :D

How does this compare? Anyone?