Dat Mining Discussion

[Rocl]

Most likely what will happen is that if the Shadowlord Ops are unlocked it will be because a dedicated minority of hardcore players did it. By spending hours and hours killing mobs in between Campaign battles and setting up enemies in the paths of the incoming allied NPC forces.

I mean that is how Splitting Heirs and what not happens currently. (I remember sitting in La Vaule for a whole week after learning where Witch Sash/Cuchulain Mantle came from, alone most of the time, sometime with LS mates, sometimes with random JPs, but usually no more than 10 people)

[Gwynplaine]

SE, what are you doing?

They're just giving some players what they've wanted for so long. Haven't they been whining for years they want lesser used zones to be more "useful" and "equal"? Be careful what you ask for.

[Deader2818]

From new mobs added

Quagmire Pugil

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...Pugil_FFXI.jpg?

[Nevex]

Remember when SE said that WotG is going to have an AV/PW-like superboss?
Don't be too excited about that GS and Nocturnus gear yet~

And Tamas is obsolete for BLM only if you always nuke in Sorc. Ring, which is dumb to say the least. Not to mention that CoP rings' stats might be increased when the level cap is raised as well.
Although this new ring might give me a reason to drop Tamas for Rajas at last, considering I don't really benefit from the extra MP since I idle in Jelly/Patronus.

[grantlogan]

LOL

[takito09]

I mean that is how Splitting Heirs and what not happens currently. (I remember sitting in La Vaule for a whole week after learning where Witch Sash/Cuchulain Mantle came from, alone most of the time, sometime with LS mates, sometimes with random JPs, but usually no more than 10 people)

If they dont add more npcs we are fucked =/ How the hell the actual npcs gonna fight in all the areas ... gonna be like 10 areas instead of 8...

[Nicostrato]

Screwdriver. Giggity.

Rajas vs. Tamas... old stuff.

No amount of gil in the game can buy you StoreTP+5, and no spell uses INT & MND at the same time. I mean, ya you miss out on some MP in your nuking set but unless you are a full-time mage there is no reason this ring should be in your inventory.

[vagus]

Some beastly items in this patch. Shadow body = e.body. Lol.

[Xanthe]

@Xanthe:
Seem to be a few errors on your item listing page, 4 leaf korrin bud and evoker's spat's aren't new.

EDIT: Scouts Braccae -1, Cobra Harness

Any items that appear on the list that aren't "new" had their DAT entry updated in some way.

[Maurauc]

They're just giving some players what they've wanted for so long. Haven't they been whining for years they want lesser used zones to be more "useful" and "equal"? Be careful what you ask for.

I mean, it seems a nice idea, and looks immediately better off than the FoV Augment system.. But day of the week/weather? And such and such an item? We'd better hope the drop rates for these items aren't too bad.

I still have high hopes though!

[Nishida]

Panetiere gives 65 storage slots relic desk much?

Omg I so want Claire in my moghouse

[Sci]

Most likely what will happen is that if the Shadowlord Ops are unlocked it will be because a dedicated minority of hardcore players did it. By spending hours and hours killing mobs in between Campaign battles and setting up enemies in the paths of the incoming allied NPC forces.

This. Emphasis on the in-between Campaign battles. If they didn't add new Allied forces, then attacking battles will occur less frequently in beastmen zones, since they'll be stuck defending elsewhere, or just general downtime between deployments. Requiring players to go to zones whenever a beastmen troop is put on defense, and make them retreat without a battle going on. Otherwise, they'll just auto-win and boost their influence, so even if 100% of attacking battles are won, the zone still might not be taken.

[Kirin]

I mean, it seems a nice idea, and looks immediately better off than the FoV Augment system.. But day of the week/weather? And such and such an item? We'd better hope the drop rates for these items aren't too bad.

I still have high hopes though!

I almost wouldnt put it past SE to have elemental obi's equipped double the bonus you get from the trial.

[Kaelan?]

Hirudinea Earring
HP-5 MP-5
Enhances effect of "Drain" and "Aspir"
BLM DRK SCH

I'll start being excited the moment someone gets one and reports that it actually does something useful. For all I know this means "Recast time minus 5 seconds!". Same thing on the regain GS. If all it does is get an extra 5 TP in the time it takes for me to get to 100, then that's....well, useless. Nocturnus body is meh. It's a haub+1 with STR+4 DEX+4 TA+1 Attack-12. Unclear weather that's actually an upgrade.

I'm much more interested in the +6 rings, the dark magic torque and the Magian thing. Also, 8Attack 2DA cape over forager's on WAR? I don't remember how effective DA stacking was anymore (I'm pretty sure I remember someone doing a pretty extensive writeup on it a while ago), but the combination of a lot of these new items might make it more useful.

[Rocl]

no spell uses INT & MND at the same time.

Actually, you are wrong there. I mean, I'm not saying it makes Tamas superior, but you are wrong here. There are other mages than Black and Red and White ones.

[Tezz]

Scholar equip, thank you SE!

Made a list of potential SCH goodies, here's link.
http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic...new-sch-items/

[Rocl]

I'll start being excited the moment someone gets one and reports that it actually does something useful. For all I know this means "Recast time minus 5 seconds!".

Gonna guess it does the same thing Diabolos's Pole does?

[Jeryhn]

Looks as though there are SEVERAL new quests concerning Odin and Alexander:

Waking the Colossus
Client: Nashmeira
(Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
Curious readings from the chamber
where the iron colossus sleeps have
Imperial researchers ill at ease. At Her
Majesty's behest, seek the support of
the four nations for a plan to repair
the colossus and free the Empire from
its shadow once and for all.

Divine Interference
Client: Nashmeira
(Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
The avatar of Alexander once again
threatens to force its way through the
spatial distortion in Nyzul. Procure a
replacement power source from the
Moblin Megomak and reactivate the
colossus to send the extradimensional
intruder back whence it came.

The Rider Cometh
Client: Nashmeira
(Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
Ominous rumors circulating among the
mercenary ranks speak of Dark Rider
sightings deep within the Hazhalm
Testing Grounds. Could this
occurrence bear any connection to
the unsealed spatial distortion? It
falls to you to investigate.

Unwavering Resolve
Client: Nashmeira
(Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
Ghatsad aims to seal the distortion
that is the Dark Rider's portal into
this world. You must procure another
key and return to Hazhalm to collect
the data he seeks. Meanwhile, Ovjang
and Mnejing would ask of you a favor
of their own...

A Stygian Pact
Client: Nashmeira
(Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
To reclaim the soul of Prince Luzaf,
you have have entered an unholy
covenant with the Dark Divinity. What
trials await you as Odin's knight?
Shrink not from the shadows, and be
strong in your convictions, that you
might emerge unscathed!

So... Maybe an Apoc Nigh-style ending to finish off the ToAU story through a series of quests... in addition to the two avatar battles?

Also seems safe to say that completion of all ToAU missions will be requirements to access these quests.

[cosworthrs]

Xarcabard[s] is not impossible to control, the JP community on Kujata took it over in one night for sandy as the final task to do.... And warping right to the fortification is so much nicer then dodging imps and amps lol

[Vegetatheprince]

What I personally find intriguing:

Spoiler: show

Allied Ring
Experience point bonus: +150%
Maximum duration: 720 min.
Maximum bonus: 9000
Lv 30 Charges 5

Duchy Earring
Enchantment: "Teleport" (Upper Jeuno)
Lv 30 All Jobs 30 charges

Lmg. Medallion +1
INT+5 Elemental magic skill +5
Lv 75 All Jobs

Fylgja Torque +1
HP+12 "Cure" potency +3% Enmity-2
Lv 75 WHM, BLM, RDM, BRD, SMN, PUP, SCH

Hecate's Cape
DEF:4 MP+7 Magic Accuracy+3
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+3
Lv 74 WHM, BLM, RDM, BRD, SMN, BLU, SCH

Galdr Ring
INT+6 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+1
Lv 75 All jobs

Zilant Ring
DEX+6 Accuracy+3
Lv 75 All Jobs

Strigoi Ring
STR+6 Attack+3
Lv 75 All Jobs

Karka Ring
MND+6 Magic Accuracy+1
Lv 75 All jobs

Bobcat Belt
DEF:6 STR+8 Attack-6 "Store TP"-6
Lv 75 WAR, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BST, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, BLU, COR, DNC

Now, in all likelihood, the rings and cape will be a bitch to get. That said if those items are attainable, with a reasonable amount of work, the following ultimately become useless items to me:

Snipe +1
Tamas
Warwolf on Sam
Ixion Cape

Ugg Pendant is still more dmg than medallion but may be less worth the trouble.

The items are definitely the most (only?) interesting part of this update.