Campaign - 3/23/10 Update

[TheMysteriousX]

F..... U SE

Cb at xarcabard s is still stupid and horrible..... ampiphteres all way around fortification no way to pull the mobs or anything... really F U SE

Yeah SE, wtf, it's almost like they want you to fight campaign battles as a team...

[Rocl]

Oh god, I finally saw Shadowbreath today. Castle Zvahl is going to be terrible. The Baileys Unit is Minotaurs with a Minotaur NM, and the Keep Unit is a bunch of demons with a Vampyr NM. Not to mention the VT Demons around the Baileys Fort and the VT Ahriman around the Keep Fort aughhhhhhhhh

[arus2001]

HOLY SHIT, thats a lot of AN. Whats been your secret? Just over time or what everyone else has been saying (refreshing on the tags) ?

Been doing it at lot from the beginning (at least until I took 6 months off for Aion) and basically never having wasted time when offensive campaigns were actually good. I won't deny doing buff-spam on sub-60 jobs before that got nerfed, too. To be honest, I find it funny today that people had a problem with that, but generally not for Astral Burn leeching. Both aren't really doing anything, but one's maybe 4k/hr tops while other can be 45k+/hr.

[orson]

Ya on my server I'm guessing if we're lucky we'll see shadowlord gear sometime after the level increase updates. That's if anyone still gives a shit. Northlands and beastmen strongholds are just too annoying to be taken over on a regular basis SE needs to nerf this crap already. At the very very least eliminate aggro from campaign battle areas and give safe teleportation directly to fighting areas.

[BlackMoomba]

Guy in my ls is approaching the 3mil marker for AN last I heard.

[phrost]

Going to apply some basic math here:

94xp/AN per minute.

60 minutes in an hour.

94 XP/1 minute*60 minutes/1 hour = 5640 XP/hour

Anything higher you're embellishing. Takes a minimum of 80 minutes to get 7500 xp.

Edit: Camp. OP being the "do a campaign" op? Then maybe possible to get 7.5K AN in an hour if you got a 5star, I don't do that op to test.

Edit2: 5star Aegis Scream IV is 672xp/1794AN at peak, so fairly close to 7.5k I suppose.

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[Priran]

He said 5.6k/hour, not 5.6k/set of tags.

[phrost]

45 min campaign, ok

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[Malacite]

Some ppl speculating that the Allied Ring is from the last of the new missions but nothing on Wiki about that yet...

Personally I think it might be either a union drop or even worse from the SL fight... I have to say that Castle Z is bullshit.

TS mobs and UFO's guarding the ramp in Xarc to get to it? Yeah that's totally not overkill. And the C.A. only warps you back to town, can't warp back in to the Baileys. Throne apparently has no NPCs and there's a C.A. in Keep but idk if you can warp there either, it's all rather extreme IMO.

Sure it likely won't matter once we have 99's running around but for now it's Hell on Vana'diel. Side Note: Currently on the final mission and seriously dreading the climb to the Throne Room. I love the new music in Castle Z Baileys though.

[Spira]

its not from the last of the new missions afaik. theres no rewards for completing that stretch

[Rocl]

its not from the last of the new missions afaik. theres no rewards for completing that stretch

Unless you count the title! (Which is pretty lame "Wanderer of Time", is that the best you can do given the final CS!?)

[Priran]

45 min campaign, ok

Either there's evidence of that in the image that I'm missing, or you're being a snarky smartass because I'm not psychic.

[Radec]

There is no evidence in the picture. That's a minimum 69 minutes on Medal SSS, and far more likely he was uncapped and it's a 90m+ battle.

HOW TO PROVE I'M WRONG:

In an way that can't be faked w/out photoshop!

Get a pic of a level 61+ character gaining >99 xp but <120, AND the same or greater amount of notes. This would mean you're above the 98/min cap (assuming medal of altana is here, if it's 100 then >101 notes) but haven't gone over 2 minutes yet (with the lowest tag, 2m cap is 120).

Here's a tip to save you time: You can't, I tried.

How to test: BLM or other large spike DD, with a friend to sleep. Get friend to drag a mob right next to the CA, and bust as much damage as you can do to it in 60 seconds, then sleep it and turn in tags. Make sure you go over 60s but not over 120s that you have tags on. Turn them in - if you have capped (SSS currently) medal, you will gain 95xp and 96AN. Hell, get a drk friend to try, borrow a KC - do 10000 damage in a minute, you'll never break the cap.

Just to cover myself for 3 days when medal of altana is available, if it raises xp per minute to 200 or somesuch then obviously this is all wrong and I'll follow up on it.

[SnickySnacks]

I'm almost positive that having a pet vastly increases the possible xp/an per minute.

On my pup I could easily get 6-7k per fight on offensive campaigns by killing a few mobs for the AN then hitting forts to cap out my xp, even post fort nerf.

[ronin sparthos]

Yeah SE, wtf, it's almost like they want you to fight campaign battles as a team...

Except thats still no reason to have a true sight mob at the zoneline.

Anyways... logged in for a bit of CB before class and 67 people were signed up for Vunkerl Campaign.... lol

[Lucavi]

There's no right way to Campaign, so the whole sub argument seems kinda silly. Then again, I also believe it doesn't give enough EXP while SE seems to think it gives too much.

Everything in a MMO must be slow to be good, according to many FFXI purists. Personally, though, I feel that if they're worried about giving out too much xp for merits that haven't been upgraded in half a decade, then they should just limit XP and increase AN.

[Sepukku]

My current qualm with Campaign is now on a packed server of 2x the people battles end too fast and even getting max XP for my rank, its still gonna take awhile just to get the 10k+ XP I find myself needing to rank up these last several Medals.

I don't have exact numbers, but some of the CBs last night approached Ronin Sparthos's observation of 67 people campaigning I'd estimate.

[Rocl]

This always happens after an Update. People are running out to get new ranks :s It'll die down eventually, before your medal's current seal expires (assuming it's like 25 days)

[Cesaria]

My current qualm with Campaign is now on a packed server of 2x the people battles end too fast and even getting max XP for my rank, its still gonna take awhile just to get the 10k+ XP I find myself needing to rank up these last several Medals.

I don't have exact numbers, but some of the CBs last night approached Ronin Sparthos's observation of 67 people campaigning I'd estimate.

Love the sig... I prefer calling it Cheesywotsit server (prob lost on those who don't have the wonder of Cheesy Wotsits in their country).

I found I was getting steady rank-ups on my mules with doing slaughterhouseIII across 4 characters and never needing to go near the idiocy fest that is campaign.

[Gergall]

Last time they added new ranks, it actually died down TOO quickly in my opinion. I was hoping the surge would last for a few weeks and give me a shot at the special campaign ops (Roundel Earring etc) but unfortunately, Windy and Bastok lost interest much too quickly.

Sandy may or may not have unlocked theirs during that period, but that happens occasionally anyway.