Relic Augments

[Beave]

Seems a lot more like the realm of Mythics, as they already have OAT as part of the generic 300TP aftermath. Relic aftermaths are the only really unique ones; it'd be a shame to make it generic along with the mythics/empyreans. That being said, many of them are unique to the point of uselessness, and could use reinvention.

What's useless about Claustrum?

[jimbobsonofgod]

What's useless about Claustrum?

This

8 MP Refresh after weapon skill.

[Atoreis]

I just want damage>MP to proc offhand Relic 2-3x damage/Excal enlight procs could also work, Vajra's SATA enhancement, etc

Would be really dumb if that was their logic

When you called add effect from Exca enlight (its physical dmg so hard to be enlight XD) I realised then with Enlight spell which is probably rarely resisted and add a lot of accuracy and its avg probably around 35 dmg is Exca add effect even worth not casting it? Exca add effect is around 8%? 12.5*35=437dmg. Idk how hp for Exca is calculated inside abyssea (dmg from enlight and exca is much smaller portion of damage in abyssea anyway) but outside enlight seems to win overall especially when you are not at accuracy cap.

They would need to change priorities on add effect first (weapon add effect over enspell).

I might be missing something?

[NynJa]

its ok guyz, Mandau induces a 10hp/tick poison...nothing else in the game can induce this. amazing DoT effect.
What, you mean poison2 is 10hp/tick, and you dont have to worry about proc rates? Well shit.

(for those who missed it, relics need a lot of fine tuning cuz DMG+10 and atk+15 isnt going to cut it from weapons that were deemed top of the line, rlllllllly powerful, 6 years ago)


aaaaaaand while Apoc's blindness might be stackable, I'm 99.999999% sure I've never seen mandau poison proc on a mob before the previous one wore off.

[Anomander]

aaaaaaand while Apoc's blindness might be stackable, I'm 99.999999% sure I've never seen mandau poison proc on a mob before the previous one wore off.

Not sure if it was mentioned before but Amano's attack down effect will definitely overwrite itself as well.

[Alkimi]

That just sounds like the PLD being unprepared, with shell IV they can cap -MDT pretty easily aegis or no. Aegis would obviously make it easier and let you supplement other slots with useful stuff (mdb/refresh) but I can't imagine him hitting a lvl 90 that hard with just capped -MDT.

Out of curiosity what was the PLD subbing?

Was a PLD/RDM. Attacks in the air were doing ~200 damage, just overwhelmed his MP pool in the end. Could be that nobody was coming to help him and he just death warped though.

[Xanthe]

Not sure if it was mentioned before but Amano's attack down effect will definitely overwrite itself as well.

As does Gugnir's defense down effect. Unfortunately it (-17%) also overwrites Angon (-20%).

[onisama]

As does Gugnir's defense down effect. Unfortunately it (-17%) also overwrites Angon (-20%).

Not to mention that gungnir gets 35ACC on the lvl 90 ver >.>

Seriously drg's job traits alone make capping acc a joke why do we need yet more acc?

Don't get me started on geirskogul, fun when solo useless anywhere else. It will never do anywhere near drakesbane and its mod AGI60% is also a joke.

If it was STR60% it might make it viable but AGI on DRG >.> /sigh

[Byrthnoth]

There is nothing you can do to make Geirskogul better than Drakesbane without totally breaking the weapon. Even 60% STR isn't competitive.

The idea I posted here (Relic Adjustments) was that they should make Geirskogul drain HP similar to Catastrophe, but that the HP should be drained to the wyvern. Along with a mod change, that could make Geirskogul a pretty useful solo tool. You keep your Wyvern alive with WS spam, it keeps you alive with HBs.

[Xanthe]

The idea I posted here (Relic Adjustments) was that they should make Geirskogul drain HP similar to Catastrophe, but that the HP should be drained to the wyvern. Along with a mod change, that could make Geirskogul a pretty useful solo tool. You keep your Wyvern alive with WS spam, it keeps you alive with HBs.

That's a pretty neat idea, especially with the more wyvern-dependent abilities introduced recently.

[Beave]

This

8 MP Refresh after weapon skill.

I was being sarcastic heh

[Ophannus]

Meh I like the idea of Geirskogul's aftermath giving you Excalibur's additional effect of Damage Varies with HP for a few minutes except the additional damage based on HP is based on the Wyvern's HP rather than DRG's. Would be a nice 200-300 damage tacked on to regular hits and Jumps.

[Atoreis]

Meh I like the idea of Geirskogul's aftermath giving you Excalibur's additional effect of Damage Varies with HP for a few minutes except the additional damage based on HP is based on the Wyvern's HP rather than DRG's. Would be a nice 200-300 damage tacked on to regular hits and Jumps.

Byrthnoth idea is like 10x better 100x more suitable for job and 1000x more cool

[RyaWHM]

So I tried out the new Randgrith:



I love the boost! In the last video, I didn't even do this much with Hexa! :D

... still, it's kinda lame realistically, not very useful other than starting a fight with a 300% Randgrith.

[Eleven19]

Did the best I could on back up laptop for quality.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ta/Amano90.jpg

Haven't gotten to try yet, immediately changed to thf to go to abyssea lol..

[Arthars]

you are one hell of a huge elvaan O_O

grats!

[Eleven19]

Ty. I'm big boned. Ask Jenesis :D

[Atomic Skull]

Well their fix for Aegis was to have it's magic damage reduction break the 50% cap. They did the same for Burtgang's physical damage reduction also.

Too bad PLD is still useless.

[Atomic Skull]

So has anyone noticed any changes to the lvl 90 relics?

[Jem]

Haven't noticed any change to Apocalypse from eyeballing at least.