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    Quote Originally Posted by Alibeemac View Post
    Ugh this quest sucks. I'll prolly have gone insane by the time I'm done lol. So far about 1285 left to go after 3+hrs of Lab of Onzozo. Trying to figure out if theres a better mob to solo than Toramas that won't be over run with other people ~.~ Oh and over 10 stacks of regular cheap bullets to get this far >< Need to try convince someone to lend me a KC or Merc Kris...
    Vunkerl Inlet (S), Crabs/Pugil that are EP and respawn every 5 minutes... plus most people won't mind teaming up and usually kill their own mobs to speed up point accumulation, so it shouldn't effect your WS'ing

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    What's the DMG+ on spharai? I missed that, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    I'm confused, why did anyone ever think a 3rd quest was even a possibility at this point in time? For all the other weapons you can browse 6 quests in advanced, if there were a 3rd quest, you'd see it at the start.

    But 'grats!
    The numbers for the third trial for relics and mythics are in the .dats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alibeemac View Post
    Ugh this quest sucks. I'll prolly have gone insane by the time I'm done lol. So far about 1285 left to go after 3+hrs of Lab of Onzozo. Trying to figure out if theres a better mob to solo than Toramas that won't be over run with other people ~.~ Oh and over 10 stacks of regular cheap bullets to get this far >< Need to try convince someone to lend me a KC or Merc Kris...
    If you're in onzozo on coeurls, I'm going to presume you're after beasts. If you want easy mobs, theres War Smilodon's in Jugner [s], a good aggro free camp (though undead may spawn there at night) at J-7 between the 2 fences. Gnoles in Batallia are pretty easy too, havent seen anyone here. I went to Uleguerand range for bunnies/tigers, but that shit was overrun hardcore. All 3 of the above mobs are rather easy, and plentiful (5m repop). You can probably make some nice bank in jugner if you have a mule take all the smilodon shit and NPC it constantly. Smilo hides NPC for 450, Meat NPC's for about 300. Thats a lot of potential gil if you're gonna have to kill that many of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    The numbers for the third trial for relics and mythics are in the .dats.
    Are you sure? I dont see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackerel View Post
    Have you tried killing Aquans, especially of the Bomb family? This would not be the first time SE screwed up a translation.
    Tried Leaden Salute on Arcana and Amorphs so far, neither registered.

    Edit: Not Birds or Vermin either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    What's the DMG+ on spharai? I missed that, I think.
    +2 then +6. It's hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderlips View Post
    Tried Leaden Salute on Arcana and Amorphs so far, neither registered.

    Edit: Not Birds or Vermin either
    Methinks Squenix has glitched our Cannons TL . . .I spoke with 2 GM's last night, both morons, asked for a SGM. In response the 2nd GM asked my usual log-in time due to "things being rather hectic of late" so they were not sure when the SGM would be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendishone View Post
    Methinks Squenix has glitched our Cannons TL . . .I spoke with 2 GM's last night, both morons, asked for a SGM. In response the 2nd GM asked my usual log-in time due to "things being rather hectic of late" so they were not sure when the SGM would be available.

    You're probably right but I just wanted to test out a few different types of mobs since I was on MtZ WSing bombs in case it was a translation error like the zeni example posted earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Are you sure? I dont see them.
    I don't know if it was extrapolated, or if there is really is a blank .dat for them (I remember someone posting that the trials exist without information) but you can see the visual evidence in your own post.

    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    991 = Mandau (DMG+1/+2)
    994 = Vajra (DMG+2/+4)
    997 = Carnwenhan
    1000 = Terphiscore
    Mandau for example:
    991 and 992 are currently available, 993 is not available and in the .dats is just blank.

    This situation exists for all relics (two active trials, one missing number but a number with blank information in the .dats). That being said, I don't see why SE couldn't just add more trials onto the end, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alibeemac View Post
    Ugh this quest sucks. I'll prolly have gone insane by the time I'm done lol. So far about 1285 left to go after 3+hrs of Lab of Onzozo. Trying to figure out if theres a better mob to solo than Toramas that won't be over run with other people ~.~ Oh and over 10 stacks of regular cheap bullets to get this far >< Need to try convince someone to lend me a KC or Merc Kris...
    While I understand that we are all generally obsessive about this game, I don't think that SE intended these quests to be fully completed on the first night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I don't know if it was extrapolated, or if there is really is a blank .dat for them (I remember someone posting that the trials exist without information) but you can see the visual evidence in your own post.



    Mandau for example:
    991 and 992 are currently available, 993 is not available and in the .dats is just blank.

    This situation exists for all relics (two active trials, one missing number but a number with blank information in the .dats). That being said, I don't see why SE couldn't just add more trials onto the end, either.
    So you think it being blank in the dats means the dat will suddenly fill in when you finish stage1? Back to what I originally said, only 2 are in the game at the moment. I fully agree a future update will add a 3rd trial though. I think there's a bunch of wishful thinking as to finishing #1 will miraculously make #3 pop up...you can browse 6 in advance in game. You can see the text for every single one in game in the dats, and the 3rd for these is a blank PH is the dat and unviewable in game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderlips View Post
    You're probably right but I just wanted to test out a few different types of mobs since I was on MtZ WSing bombs in case it was a translation error like the zeni example posted earlier.
    I tried WS's on the following mobs and nothing registers:

    Robber Crab - Aquan
    Styian Pugil - Aquan
    Flying Manta - Aquan
    Red Kisser - Amorph
    Marsh Murre - Bird
    Treant Sapling - Sapling
    Chigoe - Vermin

    Even tried a Puk (Dragon) in the off chance that SE got the 2 trials for DP reveresd, still nothing.

    [Trial 1087] = Borked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I don't know if it was extrapolated, or if there is really is a blank .dat for them (I remember someone posting that the trials exist without information) but you can see the visual evidence in your own post.

    Mandau for example:
    991 and 992 are currently available, 993 is not available and in the .dats is just blank.

    This situation exists for all relics (two active trials, one missing number but a number with blank information in the .dats). That being said, I don't see why SE couldn't just add more trials onto the end, either.
    I think 993 is just a placeholder for whats to come, and yes it probably can branch further past the 1100's (whichever the last one is). But the data of what the objective is isnt in the dats.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendishone View Post
    I tried WS's on the following mobs and nothing registers:

    Robber Crab - Aquan
    Styian Pugil - Aquan
    Flying Manta - Aquan
    Red Kisser - Amorph
    Marsh Murre - Bird
    Treant Sapling - Plantoid
    Chigoe - Vermin
    Puk - Dragon
    Still missing Beast, Lizard, Vermin (double check it, SE may have hardcoded Chigoes), Undead, Arcana, Demon.

    Drop a Leaden Salute on all of those, and call another GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Just tell yourself they're keeping the base damage low so it can "Occasionally attack 2-4 times."

    By the way, what kind of crazy quests do you guys foresee for the later updates? I'm thinking something along the lines of 10 of each of the new Ex HNM drops.
    Would shit my pants is that were true and these weapons all got some form of multi attack whether is 2x, 2-3x or 2-4x.
    If I had a Mandau and got 2-4x, I wouldn't mind doing 30,000 Mercy Strokes on an undead mob for it. But knowing SE, you probably need 10 nidhogg scales, 9 imperial wootz ingots and 5000 byne bills.

    As for the bow.... why is the base damage so low on that one.
    Assuming the 3rd part of every other weapon is the multihit trail, then the bow would just get a 3rd DMG upgrade instead balancing them out. Maybe +9 DMG making the bow 90 DMG in total.

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    not seeing anywhere, or just skimming too fast? aegis/ghorn not have any upgrades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgment View Post
    not seeing anywhere, or just skimming too fast? aegis/ghorn not have any upgrades?
    Both, they're not in yet

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    The magian moogle specifies that he only has the power to enhance weapons. Aegis/Ghorn are not weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtype954 View Post
    Would shit my pants is that were true and these weapons all got some form of multi attack whether is 2x, 2-3x or 2-4x.
    If I had a Mandau and got 2-4x, I wouldn't mind doing 30,000 Mercy Strokes on an undead mob for it. But knowing SE, you probably need 10 nidhogg scales, 9 imperial wootz ingots and 5000 byne bills.
    Well, the reason I suggest multi-proc possibility is that I don't foresee SE leaving the system with the current "best options." When current weapons become upgradeable (as I believe SE hinted they would?), then I think there will be better combinations available, probably building directly off the augmentations quests currently visible. Imagine D+13, Delay+20, Attacks twice on Blau. That is what I'm imagining relics competing against, rather than the stuff currently visible.

    PS. Relic owners with upgraded weapons might want to verify that they still see 3x procs. I could see SE breaking hidden effects accidentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    PS. Relic owners with upgraded weapons might want to verify that they still see 3x procs. I could see SE breaking hidden effects accidentally.
    At time of attempting to unlock, I just whacked a gnole for 190, so 3x proc still works.

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