Relic Augments

[Azyreborn]

Finished 1500 undead trial... that was pure hell. I died about once a day from low hp links. 4 on 1 Spriggan gets interesting. Started 2000 Plants in Fort Karugo. Moving 10x faster through trial now that i can sub whm and haste myself with refresh sigil; instead of /dnc, because of undead. Not being blinded and para'd every 2 seconds helps too. Idk what that fool was talking about earlier, but i use bison steak when i'm out there killing EP, especially on undead. My meta dmg is averaging 1200-1700 with random 2k's. Without food it's 1k-1300. My normal crits are on avg 418-434, with random double dmg crits for 700-888. Some PLD's and RDM's getting lucky i'm there and flying them through their soulsaber trial. Although I did have this one JP RDM that was nice enough to not dd and just run around pulling all the mobs and sleeping them in a nice line for me to destroy. 1400 more plants to go until Bravura is complete. If they up this to 5000 next update I will RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Oh and for all those bitches saying we're bitching too much about relic trials. I finished Shamshir and Langdebeve during the hours i got bored of killing undead and plants. 2 magians done. 1 relic still unfinished.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Ugh, finally done. I feel like rolling over and dying after all of those killshots.

http://i46.tinypic.com/11ju747.png

No increase to Shock Spikes duration or damage. Can't really say if there are any other hidden changes without giving it more time.

Haven't taken a look at the new polearm trials, is Gungnir meaningful again?

[Nightmarelord]

Anyone happen to know what the third and fourth Ragnarok trials are? >.>

Really? if ur the mase from carby. o_O!

[Xanthe]

Haven't taken a look at the new polearm trials, is Gungnir meaningful again?

I was never under the impression it was meaningless.

[Nightmarelord]

Ugh, finally done. I feel like rolling over and dying after all of those killshots.

http://i46.tinypic.com/11ju747.png

No increase to Shock Spikes duration or damage. Can't really say if there are any other hidden changes without giving it more time.

how many tarus did u kill to get that done (each time i login lolXI i never seen u on. my stalking is bad) and um how many tarus do people want to kill now that its obvious no AM extension for relic

[Xanthe]

how many tarus did u kill to get that done (each time i login lolXI i never seen u on. my stalking is bad) and um how many tarus do people want to kill now that its obvious no AM extension for relic

1500 WS on amorphs > 1500 WS killshots on lizards > 1500 WS killshots on arcana > 2000 WS killshots on vermin for a total of 6500, not counting misses or underkills.

[Nightmarelord]

1500 WS on amorphs > 1500 WS killshots on lizards > 1500 WS killshots on arcana > 2000 WS killshots on vermin for a total of 6500, not counting misses or underkills.

and the super crits didnt scale? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu se! u lucked out tho. no undead lol.

[Sho]

Ugh, finally done. I feel like rolling over and dying after all of those killshots.

http://i46.tinypic.com/11ju747.png

No increase to Shock Spikes duration or damage. Can't really say if there are any other hidden changes without giving it more time.

You are one crazy bastard. Test the DEF Down effect if nothing else bro -- it should be better than 17% now. If not, you've totally been jipped seeing as trial weapons touch upon 15% DEF Down now.

[Sho]

No ones crying about how "wah my relic is shit at lv50"...relics are lv75 weapons, atleast upon obtaining. The problem is, there are NO camps for level 80, ulness you want to xp in abyssea every 3 days. The fact that upon upgrading it, you can no longer use it for lv75-79 merit/xp, for ENM75...is fucking stupid.

Actually there are camps for 75-79 merit/exp... they are just shitty camps and not easily kill-able/chain-able VT~VT+ birds.

[Masenko]

Really? if ur the mase from carby. o_O!

Hi, yes, just curious what I'm in for when I finish it ;;

[Fottiti]

Actually there are camps for 75-79 merit/exp... they are just shitty camps and not easily kill-able/chain-able VT~VT+ birds.

Did you even read what he wrote? There are no camps at level 80, outside of abyssea, where won't get much better exp/hour when synced to 75-77.

[Plow]

Did you even read what he wrote? There are no camps at level 80, outside of abyssea, where won't get much better exp/hour when synced to 75-77.

There will be when it matters, because at that point there won't need to be 30 different good exp camps for 75-79.

[Sho]

Did you even read what he wrote? There are no camps at level 80, outside of abyssea, where won't get much better exp/hour when synced to 75-77.

Meh, so I answered at a fast pace and messed up the reply -- I meant to say there is camps at 80, just shitty camps. Riverne/M. Coast/Promyvion/Sky all come to mind.

Everyone just needs to get over the fact that if you want your relic/mythic to be stronger, you'll have to give up on it being as effective when syncing down to the optimal G. Colibri camp for merits. Get an optimal weapon for meriting 75-77, power up your relic/mythic weapons for the big fights to come, you'll (collectively) be ok. Who knows, maybe the next update will bring ways to extend your time in Abyssea and/or strengthened mobs in older areas.

[machiko]

Actually there are camps for 75-79 merit/exp... they are just shitty camps and not easily kill-able/chain-able VT~VT+ birds.

If you sync to 79 you still lose the relic WS, I can't believe they would make us lose our relic WS when they have added zero workable 80 merit camps. They might add some next update but honestly I seriously doubt it and that means the best merit camps will always be 75 sync camps and relics being locked out of that is just plain retarded. Even something as silly as Abysea farming, if the rest of the alliance are lower level they get less xp/curor so very often they will sync down lower, yet again you now just lost your relic WS.

Have to chose between upgrading the relic or losing the WS on certain things, shitty choice. Would it of been that hard to of made the WS 75-80?.. Worst part of it all is that since they changed the level to 80 on the final upgrade here, they are sure to do it on all the others too. That means if you choose not to do the last upgrade due to not wanting to lose the WS you aren't just turning down that final upgrade but everything past that too.

I don't get why mythics got even more duration on AM and relics didn't wtf is that?

[Nightfyre]

I don't get why mythics got even more duration on AM and relics didn't wtf is that?

A balancing act? Most of the DD mythics live and die by AM3, extending that brings them closer to their relic counterparts. Still inferior unless I missed something really wtfpwn that they got, but perhaps a slightly less marginal upgrade from their best non-relic/mythic counterpart.

[Sho]

A balancing act? Most of the DD mythics live and die by AM3, extending that brings them closer to their relic counterparts. Still inferior unless I missed something really wtfpwn that they got, but perhaps a slightly less marginal upgrade from their best non-relic/mythic counterpart.

Well in alot of mythics defense, they obviously did get something extra than normal, as some of their special abilities end in "II" now. If not that, they got a little bit more of a boost in a specific stat. If nothing else, pushing some weapons to their level 80 counterparts makes some of them viable weapons now in comparison to relics.

[Fottiti]

There will be when it matters, because at that point there won't need to be 30 different good exp camps for 75-79.

wat

Meh, so I answered at a fast pace and messed up the reply -- I meant to say there is camps at 80, just shitty camps. Riverne/M. Coast/Promyvion/Sky all come to mind.

Everyone just needs to get over the fact that if you want your relic/mythic to be stronger, you'll have to give up on it being as effective when syncing down to the optimal G. Colibri camp for merits. Get an optimal weapon for meriting 75-77, power up your relic/mythic weapons for the big fights to come, you'll (collectively) be ok. Who knows, maybe the next update will bring ways to extend your time in Abyssea and/or strengthened mobs in older areas.

Yep ok thanks for explaining something we already know without even trying to create an original point.

Relics were the end-all for the past 7(?) years and took many people months/years to obtain. I'm not going to waste space further explaining what relics represent but the fact that now they are effectively gimped for a major aspect of the game is a slap in the face and makes no sense.

[Nightfyre]

Well in alot of mythics defense, they obviously did get something extra than normal, as some of their special abilities end in "II" now. If not that, they got a little bit more of a boost in a specific stat. If nothing else, pushing some weapons to their level 80 counterparts makes some of them viable weapons now in comparison to relics.

Agreed. Speaking of special abilities v2, needs info on Tizona's buffed converts damage to MP effect!

[Plow]

wat

Do you really think you're going to merit that much at level 80?

It's a couple months on something you really won't be doing that much of in most cases.


There will be many more camps later, when they can fill in/swap in higher mobs because they don't need a ton of lv 75-79 camps.

[Sho]

wat



Yep ok thanks for explaining something we already know without even trying to create an original point.

Relics were the end-all for the past 7(?) years and took many people months/years to obtain. I'm not going to waste space further explaining what relics represent but the fact that now they are effectively gimped for a major aspect of the game is a slap in the face and makes no sense.

Really wasn't trying to create an original point in the first place.

Thanks for explaining something about relics that we all know as well. I know full well what relic represent, but I can also see the whining coming from some of you that they can't be synced down. Major aspect of the game indeed for relics... we should all obtain relics for the major aspect of killing a colibri 10-20 seconds faster than normal.

Here I thought the greater aspect of the things were for killing HNM-class monsters with greater ease, thanks for teaching me that I was wrong. SE hands you people something better so your relics don't get outshined by new vanilla and trial gear, then you baw tears because you can't sync them down for optimal meriting (which is only slightly better by 1~5k exp per hr depending) . Irregardless, 90%+ of the people with relics here will upgrade to the max anyways.