Relic Augments

[Byrthnoth]

As for Liberator, it's gotten some huge boosts between the the last 2 updates, and I feel it's damage potential is incredible. Not to mention they seemed to have skipped over enhance Absorb Lv II and shot directly to III. I have plans to complete the augments, but they'll happen at a slow rate :/. I feel pretti bad for having the Scythe, and not making good progress on the trials .

I'm going to echo this sentiment. I don't feel DD mythics are particularly "lol" anymore. It will be interesting to see if they got another increase in AM3 duration, but they become more viable weapons all the time. Their enhanced bonuses don't hurt either.
Things like Eve's Atma are going to end up really helping them out, because any time you're running (and your AM3 is wearing off without being used) you'll also be gaining TP so you can activate AM3 again. You can get 3 TP/tick in Abyssea without sacrificing that much in terms of Atma right now. That's 180 TP assuming you use a 300TP WS to kill something and spend its full 3 minute duration running to the next set of mobs. Including your WS TP return, now you're TPing to 100 once with a mediocre weapon and then activating AM3 and getting the highest DPS weapon in the game of your type.

[Alibeemac]

Any Annihilators out there have any suggestions for locations for Undead stage that won't be impossible to kill or get my ass kicked solo? Going to push now to finish my Plantoid trial asap to get started on the final stage. Not looking forward to trying to kill Undead on RNG ~.~

Oh and I just tested killshotting mobs with Coronach on Arcana when I don't have the trial active. My kill did give the other Annihilator in my party the credit. So I can confirm other Relics are able to help with your trial even if they aren't on the same stage as you.

[Eleven19]

Any Annihilators out there have any suggestions for locations for Undead stage that won't be impossible to kill or get my ass kicked solo? Going to push now to finish my Plantoid trial asap to get started on the final stage. Not looking forward to trying to kill Undead on RNG ~.~

Oh and I just tested killshotting mobs with Coronach on Arcana when I don't have the trial active. My kill did give the other Annihilator in my party the credit. So I can confirm other Relics are able to help with your trial even if they aren't on the same stage as you.

Not annihilator but someone mentioned to me the hounds in the Boston omlette. I think you may have to worry about ghosts aggroing, not sure, someone told me about it for lolnin trial on Dex katana. Maybe give that a shot.

[Terrestrialrage]

I did Undead for PDT sword trial in Eldieme. Drop down middle area from main entrance and go to hume bones. Theres 2 Dark Stalkers both north and south of Hume Bones (Squishy fucks, they spawn low level of 56). Then East of the bones down the hall are 3x Skele, keep going and u get to the circle area with 4x Ghost 4x Spriggan, then 4 more skeles even further down the hall. With a cure or /Dnc you're looking at 19 pops on 16 min repops. Worked pretty well, but slow solo... cuz theyre undead...

Edit: I'd skip the ghosts if you're solo, they take forever to kill and are hard to interupt on their damaging spells. Skeleton casters are easy to interupt though.

[Therin]

If they keep making more Haste gear like they did with this update (to the point where DRK can cap without Catastrophe), Liberator will be leagues ahead of Apoc in terms of damage capability.

[Alibeemac]

Thanks for the responses. I'll give them a shot.

[Byrthnoth]

If they keep making more Haste gear like they did with this update (to the point where DRK can cap without Catastrophe), Liberator will be leagues ahead of Apoc in terms of damage capability.

It really depends on how the Double Attack structure works out. If I remember correctly, Kirschy's tests showed DA not playing nicely with AM3. Jobs with more Double Attack (SAM/WAR, WAR/SAM, NIN/WAR) or Triple Attack (THF) will benefit less from OAT aftermaths than jobs with less DA/TA. An activated Conqueror is pretty badass, but if the WAR was starting with a 30% DA rate (check out that AF3+2) and AM3 provided a 50% DA rate, Bravura would only attack ~25% less per round (1.65/1.3). Bravura also attacks more frequently (lower Delay), hits harder, has 30 Acc, and is an earth staff in disguise.

But yeah, barring anything crazy I definitely see DRK and DRG mythics becoming better than their relic counterpart. There's plenty of major updates between here and 99 where SE can do crazy shit though.

[Taint]

I must say the teaming up aspect has made these trials 200% better. Its still a grind but atleast now I have someone to chat with and 100/hr is way better then 50-60/hr.

[fulgore]

I must say the teaming up aspect has made these trials 200% better. Its still a grind but atleast now I have someone to chat with and 100/hr is way better then 50-60/hr.

pretty much this

sad tho dagger and sword are same mobs family, atm wajaom is more packed than DA day 20

[Xanthe]

It's a shame I'm the only NA Gungnir on my server. The two JP owners are behind on their trials and I almost never see them on.

[Spartan]

I must say the teaming up aspect has made these trials 200% better. Its still a grind but atleast now I have someone to chat with and 100/hr is way better then 50-60/hr.

True! Unless you have an Excalibur and are in Ragnarok... then it's sad. =/

[Cleveland_7795]

Any Annihilators out there have any suggestions for locations for Undead stage that won't be impossible to kill or get my ass kicked solo? Going to push now to finish my Plantoid trial asap to get started on the final stage. Not looking forward to trying to kill Undead on RNG ~.~

Not sure about solo, still trying to find a good spot. Trio, you can do the Sperm Skulls in Glacier [S] while meriting/xp'ing if you have a perma-75 synch. Got around 250 killshots in about 2.5 hrs farming crests with some LS mates.

Is it just me, or does having a magian trial active have a hidden effect of Coronach Accuracy -1000 on whatever mob you need to kill? I can go 25/25 on Dark Ixion, and not miss a single Coronach in a 5hr Abyssea pt...but I miss 3 in a row on an DC skull!?!?!

[fulgore]

True! Unless you have an Excalibur and are in Ragnarok... then it's sad. =/

there is at the very least 3 JP exca doing trial, i saw them today

[Taint]

Not sure about solo, still trying to find a good spot. Trio, you can do the Sperm Skulls in Glacier [S] while meriting/xp'ing if you have a perma-75 synch. Got around 250 killshots in about 2.5 hrs farming crests with some LS mates.

Is it just me, or does having a magian trial active have a hidden effect of Coronach Accuracy -1000 on whatever mob you need to kill? I can go 25/25 on Dark Ixion, and not miss a single Coronach in a 5hr Abyssea pt...but I miss 3 in a row on an DC skull!?!?!

Virgil (Brav.) and I were talking about that same thing this morning. Its amazing missing 2-3 Catas in a row on EP mobs.

[Fievel]

Virgil (Brav.) and I were talking about that same thing this morning. Its amazing missing 2-3 Catas in a row on EP mobs.

I missed 3 Final Heaven in a row on EP mobs earlier doing trial, then landed one, and missed the next. Think we're on to something here ;p

[Rhealana]

I missed 3 geirskoguls on the same crab yesterday. Ws, miss, spirit link, ws, miss, disengage, jumps and tp off another mob.. and missed third ws.

Fucking 95% cap.

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[Maxwell]

We should make a petition to SE to remove the acc cap and minimum Q.Q.

Nothing makes me rage more than missed GK WSs Q.Q.

[urat]

So uh, are there any terpsichore holders out there at all able to shed some light on what the T2 and T3 "Augments steps" do? T1, the base weapon, gives a perma presto effect to your weapon, this we know.

As much as Id want to be hopeful and wish for getting 5 finishes per step, I highly doubt thats what the T3 terpsichores effects do, anyone know?

I was tempted a long ways back to start the terp for my dnc, but I just never had the time to join statics and whatnot to do things like salvage and get to 100 nyzul... =/

[Virg]

Virgil (Brav.) and I were talking about that same thing this morning. Its amazing missing 2-3 Catas in a row on EP mobs.

Indeed. Grinding trials in Cape Terrigan. I honestly was thinking SE broke relics or some shit. Missed 2 MTs in a row, landed next, miss, landed, miss, miss. Down to ~700 WSs right now and I can´t even count anymore how many I missed. Definately feels like a lot more than I should have missed.
All this in TP gear so no -acc or -dex anywhere (not that it should matter on EP mobs anyway).

[Byrthnoth]

So uh, are there any terpsichore holders out there at all able to shed some light on what the T2 and T3 "Augments steps" do? T1, the base weapon, gives a perma presto effect to your weapon, this we know.

As much as Id want to be hopeful and wish for getting 5 finishes per step, I highly doubt thats what the T3 terpsichores effects do, anyone know?

I was tempted a long ways back to start the terp for my dnc, but I just never had the time to join statics and whatnot to do things like salvage and get to 100 nyzul... =/

I had the pre-reqs done, but then SE banned my account. Screw trying to grind out ZNMs now that their drops are outdated. Screw organizing a run on the ToAU kings. Screw the Magian Trials. Screw Assaults, no one does them anymore. Screw Salvage. Soon, screw trying to get Alexandrite.

Terpsi is probably our best main-hand weapon in general, but that's way more finishing moves and Step Acc than we need and it does nothing that allows DNC to fill a different role than normal.


Also, WS-missers, you're doing thousands of weaponskills. If your sample size is sufficiently large you're bound to see statistically improbable events.