Relic Augments

[Sumiko]

YAAAYAYAYAY GJALLARHORN upgrade!! I love you SE!!!

... ... in before i find out what the trials are

[Lorax]

Any clue why SE hates relics so much these days? I'm happy to be able to upgrade em', but shit.... I'm not excited to do 3k more WS killshots (more time than it takes to do an empyrean from start to fuckin' finish) only to get 10 more base dmg and 5 more accuracy on my Apocalypse.... I know at least 1 man who'll be quitting the game over this. Pretty frustrating.

[Cursed]

Its pretty clear now that SE are just giving relic holders magian trials to keep them from going ape shit and flooding their mail boxes.
I still don't see how empyrean weapons superiority is merited and validated.
1-2 years of farming old, boring, mind numbingly punishing content for the equivalent of 200-400 million gils worth of currency (depending on when/where) vs 1-4 weeks of new content for 50 piss easy to obtain items and 50 semi-easy to obtain items (depending on empyrean weapon 80 stage)

I was hoping relics would get a serious boost this update, that was at least as easy to obtain as a Lv.80 empyrean, while Empyreans would need to pump out some sweat and tears for their stage. But its looking like SE wants Relics to become relics.

EDIT: To be more accurate, my rant about the relics should read "200-400 million gil, 1-2 years of farming + the most ridiculous magian trial bullshit ever.
Everytime I see a 85 Amano or Apoc or Bravura, I ask the holder if they suffered any mental damage due to the process.

[Lyramion]

rip my kikoku ;(

With all the OPness happening they rly should life the dualwield restrictioncrap

[Kirschy]

I don't wanna raise anyones hopes, but there's multiple new trials listed for each relic. ie; Kaiten has 2 trials listed around trial 4,000. 2 trials listed around trial 5,000. And 1 single trial listed around 5,300. This suggests multiple paths for relics~

EDIT: It's possible they're just the new trials with reduced numbers needed or something. Guess we'll know soon enough~

[Kirschy]

Here's an example for Apoc:

<field name="index">2797</field>
<field name="text">Weapon Skill: Catastrophe, ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ ≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[time/times].
Enemy: Any undead-type creature.
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻

<field name="index">2798</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ aquan-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻

<field name="index">3100</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ lizard-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻
</field>
</thing>
<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">3101</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ bird-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻

<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">3379</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ beast-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻


NEW TRIALS:

<field name="index">4845</field>
<field name="text">Weapon Skill: Catastrophe, ≺Numeric Parameter 2≻ / ≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ ≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[time/times].
Enemy: Any undead-type creature.
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻
</field>
</thing>
<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">4846</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 2≻/≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ aquan-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻

<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">5148</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 2≻/≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ lizard-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻
</field>
</thing>
<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">5149</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 2≻/≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ bird-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻


<thing type="DialogTableEntry">
<field name="index">5427</field>
<field name="text">Objective: ≺Numeric Parameter 2≻/≺Numeric Parameter 0≻ beast-type creature≺Singular/Plural Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/s].
Weapon Skill: Catastrophe
Equipment: Target item must be equipped.≺Prompt≻

[Xanthe]

I don't wanna raise anyones hopes, but there's multiple new trials listed for each relic. ie; Kaiten has 2 trials listed around trial 4,000. 2 trials listed around trial 5,000. And 1 single trial listed around 5,300. This suggests multiple paths for relics~

If that's accurate then there are most likely augmented stats on the base weapons introduced.

[Virg]

I don't wanna raise anyones hopes...

Too late now. Thx

[Phraust]

or instead of changing existing trials, they just lowered the requirements on new trials?

[Rhealana]

I need to see "Occasionally rips empyreans a new one" before I'll be happy.

Everytime I see a 85 Amano or Apoc or Bravura, I ask the holder if they suffered any mental damage due to the process.

At least Cata, Kaiten and Torment can do some decent damage. Geirskogul typically does less than my relic-proc crits. It's awesome to have to wait until <19% and still not be able to killshot a fucking mob.

[Lorax]

I need to see "Occasionally rips empyreans a new one" before I'll be happy.

Agreed. We're rightfully outraged by the ease @ which empyreans can be obtained as opposed to the time/energy put into relics to be NOT AS GOOD.

[Kirschy]

or instead of changing existing trials, they just lowered the requirements on new trials?

I think it's unlikely. In the past they reduced trials and kept the trial numbers the same. Also in the update notes it says:

Quotas have been reduced for certain trials involving Relic and Mythic weapons. (All adjustments will be reflected even for trials in progress at the time of the update.)

That further suggests the trials themselves were altered. That said, the 5 new trials are all repeats of prior trials, so it's hard to say for sure. My guess is on new paths with nice augments to keep relics on par with Empyreans~ (Maybe I'm just too hopeful.)

[Xanthe]

I need to see "Occasionally rips empyreans a new one" before I'll be happy.



At least Cata, Kaiten and Torment can do some decent damage. Geirskogul typically does less than my relic-proc crits. It's awesome to have to wait until <19% and still not be able to killshot a fucking mob.

You have to be doing something wrong then... I did my level 85 trial on Robber Crabs in Vunkerl [S] and my Geirskoguls were doing 1200-1400 damage. I used Bison Steak for food since Sigil enhancement put the duration well over 4 hours.

[Taint]

I don't wanna raise anyones hopes, but there's multiple new trials listed for each relic. ie; Kaiten has 2 trials listed around trial 4,000. 2 trials listed around trial 5,000. And 1 single trial listed around 5,300. This suggests multiple paths for relics~

EDIT: It's possible they're just the new trials with reduced numbers needed or something. Guess we'll know soon enough~

hopes up

[Terrestrialrage]

We have to keep hope alive Kirs so me and Saito dont trial for another 30 hours just to play Mnk all the time anyways...

[Rhealana]

I did my trials semi-afk so I wouldn't end up quitting again, so I didn't eat food. 900-1.1k, which is about or slightly less than a relic crit proc. When Drakes did over 2k pretty consistently, that's just pathetic. Geirskogul is a piece of crap WS, plain and simple. They sure as hell should've fixed these WSes, but with only what, 150-200 Gungnirs across all servers, SE probably doesn't give a shit.

[Fiendishone]

Nice can you post MAB, sj, Staff, weather etc? Though eye balling it looks like a extra 10% increase making QD III effect a 40% increase in QD dmg. Hoping this update they cut it down alot so i can feel motivated to do it!

Was windsday so I used wind shot, /rdm and my gearset is linked in sig, with difference being I used Auster's staff, wind grip, and wind obi.

And I'm gonna be pissed if they lowered the number of killshots needed since I've already done mine . . .gimmie a fucking refund on all the bullets I used Squenix!

[Odin'sLaw]

You have to be doing something wrong then... I did my level 85 trial on Robber Crabs in Vunkerl [S] and my Geirskoguls were doing 1200-1400 damage. I used Bison Steak for food since Sigil enhancement put the duration well over 4 hours.

how many was you doing an hour 40-60?

[Xanthe]

how many was you doing an hour 40-60?

I was doing 60-70/hr when there was no competition iirc.

[Kirschy]

The single set of trials for each Relic/Mythic is listed right before the new WS DMG+ trials for what it's worth. Here's to me hoping for a path of WS DMG+ on Relic Trial~ I can't tell where the other sets are listed though~