Puppetmaster Changes

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:21

A thread to discuss the new PUP changes.

Maneuvers at 75 now give +6 to a stat with each successful maneuver. The bonus goes to +7 when equipped with the Puppetry Dastanas.

**Yeager** · 2010-03-23 01:28

I was right on the money with my earlier prediction of Lv. 75 PUP maneuvers grating more than just +1 to the Automaton's attributes.....but +7? That was beyond even MY wildest expectations.

I predicted +5 at Lv. 75 PUP, but +7 is just......wow....I need a SAM to do some tests with Armor Piercer STAT!!!

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:31

From azagarth on KI:

"so uhh i tested valors dmg taken last night and he took avg of 80 dmg a hit from lessers about, today hes taking between 28-50 dmg a hit ;D def big improvement. Also with just the regen2 attachment and one light manuever 7/tic regen. Bone crusher also seems to be doing more, but i didnt use it enough prior to update to really tell. Looks promising thats for sure!"

**CubsWoo** · 2010-03-23 01:32

Can you check Spiritreaver damage with full +MAB attachments? Quetz is down for now.

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:34

Originally Posted by CubsWoo

Can you check Spiritreaver damage with full +MAB attachments? Quetz is down for now.

Sylph down too

No dice until later it seems.

**Seanr** · 2010-03-23 01:36

holy hell! Now time to augment hades with magian quests... Or the new h2hs

**Seanr** · 2010-03-23 01:38

also.... What about bufoons collar? No +1?

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:40

Originally Posted by Seanr

also.... What about bufoons collar? No +1?

Hmmm? Buffoons reduces overload, not enhances maneuvers.

**azagarth** · 2010-03-23 01:41

ya servers down. I had 4 mins on activate timer when i deactivated to see if it would be lessened by having my auto at 90% but no go there... activate timer still sucs lol.

However I did get to try out double regen attachment. It yielded 10/tic at 75 with one manuever, and it seemed that multiple light yielded nothing more than that. So I guess more light =/= more regen.

I also for fun attached an inhibitor and flame holder for bone crusher and it did over 1k with 2 fire at 110tp. I never used it before on lessers so not sure how good this is.... but seems with how fast pup will get tp now that valor may end up best xp auto? I wasent even using full dd attachments too so I know on greater colibri with 3 fire and having SP trigger the sc we can probably see 1200 avgs off bone crusher, while maintaining really good dot. Will test this out, valors my favorite would love to use him more (if nothing i can vent hate to him with how little he takes now)

**Seanr** · 2010-03-23 01:46

Originally Posted by Toth

Hmmm? Buffoons reduces overload, not enhances maneuvers.

it's almost 3 am I got class in 5 hours, cut me some slack lol

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:47

Originally Posted by Seanr

it's almost 3 am I got class in 5 hours, cut me some slack lol

No prob XD I was wondering if I was missing something!

**coldviper18** · 2010-03-23 01:50

So now that pup naturally get's 250 skill. Anyone able to see about asuran fists? >_>
Doubt it, but I cant help but be a wishful thinker.

**Toth** · 2010-03-23 01:51

I think most PUPs are perfectly happy with Stringing Pummel.

**azagarth** · 2010-03-23 01:53

ya i didnt even check lol, and its 256 skill ;D

I cant see a reason to ever want asuran and wish people quit about it. my SP avg PRE-update rivaled my asurans avg and my pup gear is shit compared to mnk.

**Kaisha** · 2010-03-23 01:56

Asuran would be nice for those of us that lack a Nyzul floor level that's reasonable in terms of WS points required for mythic WS.

Hope to hear more on how Valoredge deals against damage with normal XP mobs. Always bothered me how easily he died even though he sported 2.4k HP.

**coldviper18** · 2010-03-23 01:58

I'm perfectly happy w/ stringing pummel. I simply love asuran fists though from the first time I saw it, to the first time I used it, and even the 100th time I used it. And still now, I use it and love it. It's just my favorite WS, so I couldn't help but wonder.

**Narol** · 2010-03-23 02:00

Originally Posted by Kaisha

Asuran would be nice for those of us that lack a Nyzul floor level that's reasonable in terms of WS points required for mythic WS.

Spoilers: Howling Fist is much better than most people think.

**azagarth** · 2010-03-23 02:03

ya HF will out do asuran on all but the squishiest of targets on my mnk. FOr instance MMJ i use HF over AF since it avgs higher for me (my gears very good too on mnk).

Also not doing nyzule is a horrible excuse to not have string pummel. Go get floor 100 its worth while.

**Kaisha** · 2010-03-23 02:03

Originally Posted by Narol

Spoilers: Howling Fist is much better than most people think.

What do you think I used on my PUP all this time?

**catmato** · 2010-03-23 02:06

Originally Posted by azagarth

Go get floor 100 its worth while.

Yeah, go to the AH and buy it. Its that easy.

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