Puppetmaster Changes

[Indalecia]

Pretty close. Stop being lazy

[azagarth]

nah just takes 20 days (16 if you have full tags). No reason to NOT have it seeing as everyone with a melee char should be getting the ws'

[catmato]

nah just takes 20 days

Assuming no failures and finding people every day who actually climb.

[Kaisha]

nah just takes 20 days (16 if you have full tags). No reason to NOT have it seeing as everyone with a melee char should be getting the ws'

I would kill for a static full of people who know what they're doing. Easier said than done.

I swear I've tried to do Floor 6->10 at least 8 times, and wasted many a tags doing 1->5 repeatedly because most people are either at 1, or 10, and never want to help a guy inbetween. Mostly been wasting tags on AP and the HNM floors these days.

[Draylo]

Not exactly that easy. Most people don't have 5 people on hand to do a static (even then it sucks when people don't show) and they are forced to do with PUGs. I'm sure people know how PUG's go most times.

[Indalecia]

Or you can just get weapon and start working on points immediately and meet in the middle.

I personally got 3k points before getting atonement. Got 100 disc about 2 weeks later.
My roomie got 8k points...

Your a fucking pup, you solo anyway, stop bitching and moaning. Its fucking easy, just needs...are you ready for this...PATIENCE.

[catmato]

Or you can just get weapon and start working on points immediately and meet in the middle.

I personally got 3k points before getting atonement. Got 100 disc about 2 weeks later.
My roomie got 8k points...

Your a fucking pup, you solo anyway, stop bitching and moaning. Its fucking easy, just needs...are you ready for this...PATIENCE.

Again, just go get the weapon from the AH. Its that easy.

[Narol]

I swear I've tried to do Floor 6->10 at least 8 times, and wasted many a tags doing 1->5 repeatedly because most people are either at 1, or 10, and never want to help a guy inbetween.

There was a guy in my linkshell like that. He was on 6-10 and refused to do 1-5 again even with the promise of a full LS static.

[Indalecia]

Again, just go get the weapon from the AH. Its that easy.

So your lazy.

Gotcha

[Suljin]

Stop arguing, if he wants to not bother to get SP, then sucks to be him. Someone who can go play this game to grab harle and see if SE did anything to attempt to make it usefull post 10. Also see if shock absorber scales up with lvl or has been increased as well.

[azagarth]

btw i did 20 runs before passing floor 5 lol..... and it took me 6 months of doing PUG's to finally get floor 100 JUST FOR THE FING WS BECAUSE THE GEAR IS SHIT AND I DIDNT NEED.

Really though there is 0 reason to not get it if you want the ws. I would have just did like 5k ws points though If I only wanted 1 ws. However with 6 melees there was no way I was going to do more then I had to. Plus I had a dream to do KKK so I needed the key item anyhow, but now with shens there is no real drive for me to.

[Kaisha]

# The performance of automaton frames has been adjusted.

Would like to eventually hear what SE means by performance.

Could be an change in AI (although they're usually more specific when they did that in the past), or possible speed increase. Maybe lowered delay on spells?


Also, I should have mentioned earlier that I just came back recently from a 6 month hiatus. Wasn't exactly aware that SP WS were commonplace amongst most players.


And SE needs to fucking hurry with fixing the merger-servers, I want to mess about on my PUP damnit!

[Draylo]

I already have floor 100 and was lucky enough to do it in a static. I can see how hard it may be now though. Will alone won't get you from 1~100... if you don't have a static you always have to either beg friends or get a PUG.... both options suck and usually you don't always win every tag w/a PUG. I agree though, if you really want it you can go for it might take a while though!

[Narol]

I already have floor 100 and was lucky enough to do it in a static. I can see how hard it may be now though. Will alone won't get you from 1~100... if you don't have a static you always have to either beg friends or get a PUG.... both options suck and usually you don't always win every tag w/a PUG. I agree though, if you really want it you can go for it might take a while though!

And sometimes even with a static you just get 2 or 3 order-lamp floors and time out.

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inb4 "just use AP Radar's pay feature"

[pchan]

Yeah, go to the AH and buy it. Its that easy.

Can trio easily, I personnally duo with a rdm dual boxed that stays at warp for most of inbetween floors.

[catmato]

So your lazy.

Gotcha

My lazy what?
I'm working on climbing, currently on 25, but don't act like you can just spend an afternoon to get to 100.

I already have floor 100 and was lucky enough to do it in a static. I can see how hard it may be now though. Will alone won't get you from 1~100... if you don't have a static you always have to either beg friends or get a PUG.... both options suck and usually you don't always win every tag w/a PUG. I agree though, if you really want it you can go for it might take a while though!

This man speaks the truth. Back to PUP info.

Someone who can go play this game to grab harle and see if SE did anything to attempt to make it usefull post 10.

I, too, hope they gave harle a raison d'etre besides noob puppet.

[azagarth]

ANy more pup info? My servers down and im dying to know.

[Psion]

Valoredge appears to have a base defense boost, as the mobs hitting soulsoother in beau. glacier for 32 a whack hit him for 22 a whack (without attachments on both). A gigas mnk hit him for 3 a whack. lol

With dual armor plates they dropped down to about 15 a whack, and with 3 earth maneuvers it dropped down to about 7-9~

When I equipped soulsoother with them, his own damage dropped down to 22ish a whack and 15 a whack with 3 earth maneuvers.

I also set a new bliz IV record there for me, with oniwaka precharging with abs-int, burn on mob, and double ice weather bonus, he hit for 2790 damage, as opposed to his previous best of 2665 with same buffs. (non magic burst). 5/5 optimization, 5/5 auto magic, AF gloves, and 12 pet MAB in gear both times.

What else... lesser colibri hit VE for 50 a whack first hit with dual plates and steam jacket, then the subsequent hits dropped to 30 a whack with no maneuvers, making them laughably easy for VE to keep up. with 3 earth maneuvers, the damage fell as low as 19 and hits averaged around 20-23ish. Seems like SE finally got the idea with defense for autos. XD VE can easily tank stuff thats EP-DC with defense attachments and dual auto repair kits.

Speaking of which, auto repair kits appear to be based on either the pups level, max hp of automaton, or both. VE at 75 was getting 10/16/24 hp a tic regen from 1-3 light maneuvers with both equipped, yet soulsoother was getting 9/15/24 with soulsoother. However, VE was weird as twice I could've sworn I saw his hp jump by 30, not 24, making me wonder if their a % base off max hp and it's counting fractions like with TP.

Testing on my level 1 mule Psi resulted in auto repair kit II giving the usual 2/3/4 hp a tic regen with 1-3 maneuvers, and 40 max HP with it equipped. So clearly no broken lowbie auto tanks that require no healing, but still possible they could make back-up tanks. I should've checked to see if we could cure VE or harly frames with magic now. XD

Mana tanks are probably the same way considering how pups are finding different values.

Also, bone crusher definetly seemed to hit harder for me, doing 550 consistantly on beau. mobs instead of its typical 200- rare 500ish, and one hit for nearly 700 damage despite having no attachments equipped. Tested on lesser colibris with DD attachments and it still hit for 500-600ish, and with flame holder and one fire maneuver reached nearly 800 damage, pleasing fat psider. ,,(,, ';.;' ,,),,

Oh, and soulsoother AI is... still broken. (-_-; )

[Ahkow]

haha , since when nyzul is hard ... if Pchan can do 96-100 with 3 man ... 0-96 is a breeze...

[Meian]

Um, so any word on if they gave seperate timers yet on -na/cures ?