Final Form Magian Weapons

[NynJa]

Can you get credit for two weapons at once? Like dual wielding peelers or something?

I doubt it?

[Dead Phoenix]

Can you get credit for two weapons at once? Like dual wielding peelers or something?
---not possible to have the same trial active twice, still unsure if double counting is possible though


Also, has anyone tested kills under level sync?

I know for a fact you still get credit with a peeler in your off hand, don't see why you couldn't do 2 at once.

[Cantih]

I'll give it a try tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it.

[HarleyM]

I just don't know which weapons even overlap yet

[cassiraa]

Wrote this down for my own convenience, thought I'd share:

Katana path requirements:
578 -> 580
	581->585	Mozu  (36/227	 Dmg +7)
	586->587
		587->588	Izatu (21/222	Dmg +13 Dly +10 atk twice)
		587->591	Izatu (21/222	Dly +20 atk twice)

578 3x Zi'Ghi Bone Eatr
579 3x Lumbering Lambert
580 3x Deadly Dodo

581 4x Gargantua
582 4x Megalobugard
583 3x Ratatoskr
584 6x Jyeshtha
585 6x Capricornus

586 400 Birds [non-exp]
587 300 Cluster [non-exp]
588 10 Ruthven's Nails

589 500 Vermin [non-exp]
590 600 Demon-type [non-exp]
591 400 Raffelsia Family [non-exp]

[Tezz]

Den of Rancor has a few lizards too

[Shamaya]

You can't undertake the same trial on more than 1 weapon at a time, it seems. So even if you were to dual-wield two different Magian Weapons, I doubt you'd find a time where the conditions for both trials matched.

[seiji]

Where would it be fastest to kill 100 lizards in any weather?

get a SCH friend (anybody tested if sch weather worked?)

[Xavier]

get a SCH friend (anybody tested if sch weather worked?)

Seriously? It doesn't work.

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As for the "Hauteclaire" Soulsaber, I think it's a viable alternative for situations where you might need the pdt.

[HarleyM]

get a SCH friend (anybody tested if sch weather worked?)

does ANYONE use the search function?

[Karbuncle]

I've answered it three times ;;

[Sepukku]

164-165->178-181 Sword looks nice for BLU, results in

DMG:43 / Delay:230
DEX+4 ACC+8

Compare to Perdu which is DMG:44, ATT+15 ACC+5, Perdu is a lot better by meleeing standpoint, but that Soulsaber would be much better for casting for BLU, or, in the case, of /NIN, Perdu/Soulsaber would give +15 ATT +13 ACC +4 DEX.

[Arcanesoul]

164-165->178-181 Sword looks nice for BLU, results in

DMG:43 / Delay:230
DEX+4 ACC+8

Compare to Perdu which is DMG:44, ATT+15 ACC+5, Perdu is a lot better by meleeing standpoint, but that Soulsaber would be much better for casting for BLU, or, in the case, of /NIN, Perdu/Soulsaber would give +15 ATT +13 ACC +4 DEX.

I've been wondering about this. Not sure how I go about determining what's better due to the fact Blu will be spellcasting as well as melee.

I'm guessing for pure melee dmg, the occasionally attacks twice is better? Or would the above Soulsaber be a better offhand because of the acc and mod to the Big3.

Mainly just wondering though where Koggelmander falls with respect to these, and also what place the Nobolis with Dmg47 dly236 has.

[Sepukku]

I've been wondering about this. Not sure how I go about determining what's better due to the fact Blu will be spellcasting as well as melee.

I'm guessing for pure melee dmg, the occasionally attacks twice is better? Or would the above Soulsaber be a better offhand because of the acc and mod to the Big3.

Mainly just wondering though where Koggelmander falls with respect to these, and also what place the Nobolis with Dmg47 dly236 has.

I have 0 interest in Nobilis. Base DMG means very little to me, and its only +3 over Perdu anyways. Does your Savage Blade numbers mean much to you? The base damage obviously won't influence spells.

Koggelmander is still nice, but I don't have one so Soulsaber with +4 DEX +8 ACC is a must for me. If I had one, I'd still get a Soulsaber and mix and match the swords based on your needs. Dodgey mob? Perdu/Soulsaber. Casting zerg? Koggel/Soulsaber. Imp fun? Take your pick/Demon Slayer. Its at the very least situationally usable, and if one doesn't have a Koggelmander, a must-have.

Occasionally Attacks Twice sword would be a nice toy, and I'll admit it was what first caught my eye and what was initially tempted to pursue, but I know I get TP in time for Chain Affinity recast anyways, so its a niche/play toy in my mind. Wouldn't be bad offhand for Vorpal Blade spamming during casual stuff, but not as groundbreaking as other jobs Occasionally Attacks Twice weapons.

[Nightfyre]

I've been wondering about this. Not sure how I go about determining what's better due to the fact Blu will be spellcasting as well as melee.

I'm guessing for pure melee dmg, the occasionally attacks twice is better? Or would the above Soulsaber be a better offhand because of the acc and mod to the Big3.

Mainly just wondering though where Koggelmander falls with respect to these, and also what place the Nobolis with Dmg47 dly236 has.

Nobilis is a slight downgrade from Perdu when accuracy capped, though the higher weapon rank is a small boost. If you need Perdu's accuracy it's even worse. I wouldn't give it up for Koggelmander personally, but I could be wrong in doing so.

DEX/ACC one caught my eye, but I'm generally at least capping accuracy when BLU melee is viable so I'm not sure how much I really stand to gain from that. Guess I could swap in the new Haste pieces with it or something. I'll probably just get the multihit one and call it a day though.

[arus2001]

Somewhat related, but I'm having a hell of a time tracking Ishtar's PH with people killing all the dhalmels (even people in my party telling them not to, stupid JPs). How does one go about editing mob names in the DATs? Figure that could save me a lot of grief scanning/running.

[Cantih]

You can't undertake the same trial on more than 1 weapon at a time, it seems.

Bah, I just confirmed this.

[Me2217]

I might have completely missed it, but has anyone done any number crunching to see if the Dmg +21 delay +55 Mantis weapons would beat destroyers/hades +1? might think of working towards them if they do.

[Rionel]

I wonder...

If you already have one type of RA/EX weapon from Test of the Magians, like the Athame dagger for example, would it still be possible to obtain another Athame but with different stats? Even the same stats?

Was wondering since there are so many different kinds of stats for each weapon...

[HarleyM]

I wonder...

If you already have one type of RA/EX weapon from Test of the Magians, like the Athame dagger for example, would it still be possible to obtain another Athame but with different stats? Even the same stats?

Was wondering since there are so many different kinds of stats for each weapon...

Were they rare/ex, no it wouldn't be. However, they are simply aug/ex. The current assumption is that YES, you can get two of the same weapon at the same time, but you must undertake each trial twice.