Final Form Magian Weapons

[Mercilessturtle]

I just hate stupidity.

The irony is overwhelming.

[lolwut]

This isn't complicated. Magian trials were WOTG content.

How do you figure? My magian trials were done in Vanilla, RotZ, CoP, and WotG areas. It was a cross expansion event from the start.

There was no indication that you would be required to purchase add-ons to complete magian trials.

Disagree again. Considering the end mobs for all high end weapons were Abyssea crossovers into the real world, it seems natural that the next level would come from true Abyssea mobs.

[hexagram23]

For anyone who can see the DATs, can Glavoid Shells be sold or AH'ed?

[Sho]

For anyone who can see the DATs, can Glavoid Shells be sold or AH'ed?

"NoSale, Ex".

[Kincard]

people were bringing up the fact they were being cockblocked by 9.99 miniexpansion which has absolute nothing to do with them not continuing the OAT path

That's right, keep pretending you were talking about something else, even though you stated Apoc Nigh as an example of them making you buy another expansion to continue an ongoing quest. People were obviously complaining about not being able to get weapons that appeared on the fucking Abyssea website even though they didn't buy Abyssea.

I'm not here to talk about how worthwhile the addon is, my point is simply, "Add more options." Make the Abyssean path a much better weapon, I don't care- they did that with the DMG weapon, and there's no reason they couldn't do with that OAT one. People who desire the best weapon will still buy the damn addon whether they did that or not.

[orson]

edit: Dammit >.> checked the OAT path now I see what you're getting at. Guess I shouldn't be posting from work not checking this shit out myself.

Also I agree that there's not much of a reason they couldn't have added a split off for the main VNM path.

[Shadida]

Does anyone know if Gastraphete's "Occ. deals dbl. dmg." procs on Barrage? Because that is the deciding factor regarding the useability of the new 2x dmg ranged weapons.

[Mercilessturtle]

Ya, ok, that's totally why I've already admitted that I wasn't paying attention to the previous complaints about the OAT weapons. It's pretty easy to see what I was talking about it's not rocket surgery to understand that I was saying, "No point in getting butthurt over SE making you buy Abyssea after all you can just boycott it if you're really that upset."

Also did it ever occur to you that SE is just worried about making the OAT weapons too strong. Not to say that at this point they are (actually atm isn't the H2H one the best?) but SE is notoriously bad for not wanting to out class gear and make unbalanced things. Usually because "completionists" always cry a river when their best gear suddenly isn't the best. You're just assuming that Abyssea is the reason that SE stopped that line was to sell more copies but that makes little to no sense if they were really doing that then they'd likely make every path require Abyssea.

I would have really liked continuing the OAT path too since I'm more then 3/4s the way done. I'm guessing that they probably will continue at some point it doesn't seem likely they'd put us through all that work of VNMs just to cap it off. Also by the time they do release the next part of it I'll higher level and the VNMs will be that much easier and faster to do.

You'll notice you keep on replying, despite still not bothering to stop and read what you are replying to first. They did continue the OAT path. But it requires buying the add-on. They continued the path for every other weapon without needing to buy the add-on. This is the complaint.

Again, quit being in such a hurry to defend your precious SE and actually read the vicious slander you are trying to defend them from. Why is it that you can take the time to make up complete nonsense excuses (for things that didn't even happen) like "they don't want it to be overpowered", but you can't take the time to simply read what you are replying to? And why do you still keep replying even when your reply starts off with "yeah whatever, I didn't read what you said so my entire reply was irrelevant"?

[Knyghtmayre]

Does anyone know what a Quetzalli is? <.<a It's listed as the requirement for Trial 1561 (30 kills of it) but I don't know what it is or how hard it is, nor have I even heard any mention of it. I'm really considering going for the DA+5% D92 GKT instead of Masamune or Hiraidennotachi just because of the ease of doing it. But this Quetzalli step may prove to reverse my decision ;|

[Atoreis]

Does anyone know what a Quetzalli is? <.<a It's listed as the requirement for Trial 1561 (30 kills of it) but I don't know what it is or how hard it is, nor have I even heard any mention of it. I'm really considering going for the DA+5% D92 GKT instead of Masamune or Hiraidennotachi just because of the ease of doing it. But this Quetzalli step may prove to reverse my decision ;|

Some other weapons require killing 30 adze.
Adze is NM gnat I saw in abyssea-mea.
So Quetzalli is NM proabably spawning on his own in some abyssea zone.
Wiki saying Quetzalli is a bird so my quess will be its Bird NM.
I hope i help you slightly.
One more thing - those NMs that spawning by themselfs are pretty hard (req party-ally) from what I saw in Abyssea discussion thread.

[Julian]

Are the OAT h2h weapon working on both hits confirmed? All I see is speculation, or so and so said this, but nothing concrete.

Unless I missed a post, which I may have? idk

Still have yet to see any confirmation on h2h double attack actually being "fixed."

[Kushman]

I'm surprised no one has done the PLD/RDM/BLU sword yet. A multi-hit weapon for BLU no less!

I am 7 Ruthven's nails short on this weapons Trial 160. And the additional Trials added to it are really nice. I am nearing the final stages of the Empyrean paths on the H2H and Gun. So much to do so little time.

[Helm]

Anyone see the occ. hit 2-3 times sword sitting around on anyone? I decided to start working on that, but I'm curious how it's going to pan out for my PLD.

[Pooke]

Originally Posted by Yvonne
I'm surprised no one has done the PLD/RDM/BLU sword yet. A multi-hit weapon for BLU no less!

I finished Antea a week ago and it sure is nice. Antea/Joy was a lot of fun getting paladin 80 in a day! I've only gotten to use it on blu during vnm, but it's obviously an improvement for the job. The next two new quests I think are very weak upgrades, a whoppin 2 dmg improvement after doing two trials is pretty lame.

[Hercule]

I finished Antea a week ago and it sure is nice. Antea/Joy was a lot of fun getting paladin 80 in a day! I've only gotten to use it on blu during vnm, but it's obviously an improvement for the job. The next two new quests I think are very weak upgrades, a whoppin 2 dmg improvement after doing two trials is pretty lame.

I think the OAT path are going to have the real final form with lv cap raise 99

[Linsivi]

Does anyone know if Gastraphete's "Occ. deals dbl. dmg." procs on Barrage? Because that is the deciding factor regarding the useability of the new 2x dmg ranged weapons.

This is from Katuaki's FFXIAH profile, he's the only one FFXIAH listed as an owner.

Gastraphetes doesn't generate double damage of the LV3 Aftermath in Barrage and WS now. It is not understood whether it is trouble or there is an occurrence condition. Please teach when there is knowing.

I'll try and track him down and ask later, used to do Brenner with him >.>

[urat]

So without really checking on the killing normal monster path, I took the 10 eyes of verthandi path for the dmg+ OAT dagger.

I havent done any of the trial yet, its just inscribed on my athame, so I wanna know if its possible to cancel a trial and take a different one if you havent started it yet? Yeah no?

[Motenten]

Yes, you can.

[Kincard]

Yeah, you can stop a trial you are currently on. Needless to say, this will erase any progress you've made on the weapon. You cannot regress a weapon back into a previous form once you've actually completed a trial.

Also worth noting is that they did a really clunky way of canceling trials. To remove the trial from your magian's trial log (It can only hold a maximum of five), you need to talk to the magian moogle and say you want to cancel a trial. After that, to remove the actual Trial inscription from the weapon, you need to trade the weapon to the moogle, and watch the same annoying animation play out twice in a row.

I have not tested to see what would happen if I cancelled a finished trial, and then turned in the weapon with the finished trial inscription on it (I doubt anybody would waste their time doing that). I imagine it would just cancel the trial, ignoring all the progress you've made.

[zagex]

Also worth noting is that they did a really clunky way of canceling trials. To remove the trial from your magian's trial log (It can only hold a maximum of five), you need to talk to the magian moogle and say you want to cancel a trial. After that, to remove the actual Trial inscription from the weapon, you need to trade the weapon to the moogle, and watch the same annoying animation play out twice in a row.

I canceled my trial by only trading the weapon and saying I wanted to give up the trial.