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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Any suggestions for doing the trials that involve proc of additional effect?
    Grab 2-3 mobs w/e you think you can handle safely. /dnc doesnt inhibit the proc either, and i would suggest single wielding so the mobs last longer. The proc rate for the status effect weapons are fairly frequent on EP and such mobs. Rarely go more than 10-20 swings w/o a proc and just rotate mobs when you do. Was able to do the 350 times trial in a couple hours with a PL haster and /war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    would the Oa2-3x Be useful for a BST using say, Primal rend primarily?

    Or would the DA+7/Glyph axe be a better option for them? Cause im coming up on the OAT/DBL+7 Split trial soon and wondering which path to take.
    Well, if you're single-wielding it versus slimes or flans it might outdo Temperance Axe. I wouldn't put my money on it though, Temperance Axe is beastly (D30 vs. 39 with much lower delay) and the TP gain on it is pretty comparable. For BST, the true OAT is the best axe. It's much more of a toss-up on WAR because they have 20% Double Attack to start with.

    2.72 attacks per round with DEX/OAT (14.3 DPS pre-DW)
    2.54 attacks per round with DA+7/DEX (15.02 DPS pre-DW)
    2.4 attacks per round with STR/DEX (14.8 DPS pre-DW if you give it +1 fSTR)

    So DA+7/DEX has slower TP gain, but better DPS and higher WS damage (higher main hand base damage and DA+7). The STR/DEX combo is very competitive, as would DEX x2 if it let you switch to meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Well, if you're single-wielding it versus slimes or flans it might outdo Temperance Axe. I wouldn't put my money on it though, Temperance Axe is beastly (D30 vs. 39 with much lower delay) and the TP gain on it is pretty comparable. For BST, the true OAT is the best axe. It's much more of a toss-up on WAR because they have 20% Double Attack to start with.

    2.72 attacks per round with DEX/OAT (14.3 DPS pre-DW)
    2.54 attacks per round with DA+7/DEX (15.02 DPS pre-DW)
    2.4 attacks per round with STR/DEX (14.8 DPS pre-DW if you give it +1 fSTR)

    So DA+7/DEX has slower TP gain, but better DPS and higher WS damage (higher main hand base damage and DA+7). The STR/DEX combo is very competitive, as would DEX x2 if it let you switch to meat.
    More or less what i had come to expect, though the thought of having to farm stones over and over to keep the weapon useful as opposed to a full-time 2-3x Attack weapon...

    I loathe Apkallu so i'll probably just sit on the OaT with DMG+1 path waiting for the next update to see where to go before choosing to kill Apkallu or go for the Gnat NM.

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    Finished! Hardest part was trying to get the necklets because nobody kills the qutrub on this server.

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    heya,i've tried to check if some1 asked already,but didnt find anything,so here i am:
    any good place for trial 82(50 skeletons under any weather)?i've seen on wiki about Uleguerand Range,what about sacrarium,the eldieme necropolis or garlaige citadel?does weather pop commonly or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyrey90 View Post
    heya,i've tried to check if some1 asked already,but didnt find anything,so here i am:
    any good place for trial 82(50 skeletons under any weather)?i've seen on wiki about Uleguerand Range,what about sacrarium,the eldieme necropolis or garlaige citadel?does weather pop commonly or not?
    Eldieme has earth weather pretty often. Teamed up with a lot of people while i was doing my 600 undead for oa2-3 h2h.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krispy View Post
    http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...r/9e6c179f.png
    Finished! Hardest part was trying to get the necklets because nobody kills the qutrub on this server.
    Nice, one up on fstr. Working on the same thing myself. It wouldn't surprise me that the OAT proc rate is different from the lvl 75 version. Do you think you can run a test on it? Perhaps going from 40% to 45%, doubt it but it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Nice, one up on fstr. Working on the same thing myself. It wouldn't surprise me that the OAT proc rate is different from the lvl 75 version. Do you think you can run a test on it? Perhaps going from 40% to 45%, doubt it but it is possible.
    I'm gonna test the proc rate on brittle rock sometime this week. I'll post results after testing. From eyeballing, it seems to proc a lot more often than the Lv75 version.

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    Nice, keep us updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyrey90 View Post
    heya,i've tried to check if some1 asked already,but didnt find anything,so here i am:
    any good place for trial 82(50 skeletons under any weather)?i've seen on wiki about Uleguerand Range,what about sacrarium,the eldieme necropolis or garlaige citadel?does weather pop commonly or not?
    If you have a handy 58/59 sync partner (I had a 60 which meant half checked as too weak), Xarcabard is easy - was constantly either ice or dark weather. Did the whole trial in about 90 mins, would have been half that if it weren't for having to hunt down the ep's....

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    K so I parsed myself against a brittle rock with haste & double march and this is what I got from the "Extra Attacks" tab.

    http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...r/9e4fd5bc.jpg

    edit: don't really get the kick attack thing lol......

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    Did you have any DA gear or /war?

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    aw fuck, i left brutal on...... orz let me go reparse this..

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    Ok, this time I went as DRK/BLM no DA gear what soever double march & haste.

    http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...r/6643ebce.jpg

    getting confused on some of the things on there but yeah.

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    Okay, so it is still 40%

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    I'm about to do my Magian Scythe Absolution (D105 +6str +20attack), does anyone have a general guide where to hunt the monsters?

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    what's easiest way for GK trial 653 -> 300 ladybugs. jugner S at 80 or sync down to eron bugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaope View Post
    I'm about to do my Magian Scythe Absolution (D105 +6str +20attack), does anyone have a general guide where to hunt the monsters?
    Did this a few weeks ago mostly solo. here's what i did(I was lvl 80 in all trials)

    Against mandragoras(Trial 526) - Boyahda tree(although if you sync to 21 you can do buburimu and finish quick)

    Against Raptors(Trial 527) - Valley of sorrow (1st entrance) with npc i was able to kill them easy every time weather was up(Use Rabao NPC to check weather ahead)

    Against Any mob and Aquans(Trial 528-529) I used robber crabs in Kuftal since they are very easy at 80

    Against Beast(Trial 530) i killed bunnies and tigers in Uleguerand range(Entrance camp)

    Against Flans(Trial 531) This one is hard as hell especially solo. Had to use drk/nin to kill them mixing dreadspikes till utsu was up. I found a camp at Halvung(Nyzul>Bhaflau(birds camp)>halvung) in this one you will find 4 flans but if you zone to mt zhayolm and stick to the right wall you will find another camp in halvung with 5 flans(9 flans total) in 1 game day i was able to kill 12-14. Took me like 1month solo.

    Against vermins(Trial 1470) i killed dhamsel(sp?) flies in meriph mountains (S) near the campaign tower you will see a bunch of them. Once again solo in 1 game day i was able to kill 40-50.

    Against Manticores(Trial 1471) I killed the manticores in Cape Terrigan. The camp i used was the one near the cloister of Gales(garuda) zone. Solo i could kill 15-16 mostly because they have high HP.

    I used drk/sam in all my trials cept on flan because they were to fast and hit hard. I used npc(soothing healer) to avoid resting cept with flan for obvious reasons. What else can i say.... use the signet/sigil whenever u can for all the bonuses they give. Sanction sucks so use it if you want. I know this arent the best camp or areas to farm them but since i did them solo it was the best i could find so goodluck on the hunt

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    I haven't noticed any difference in proc rate since I upgraded to Spitfire so yeah, I think it's still 40%.

    Does stack with Double Shot by the way, get more like 55-60% overall OAT when I use Double Shot regularly.

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    Going after a apir of int/matt Kilas, path is:
    Hecteyes/weather -> Ice weather/day: Any -> Aquans -> undead -> Worms -> Lizards -> Buffalo

    My goal is to get both Kilas to the just before buffalo stage so I can do them while finishing the last trial (450 buffalos normal) at the same time, so that hopefully by the time I have finished both kilas I'll have them AND my OAThrice parazonium done :D

    Im thinking I wanna do Kuftal for aquans and worms, eh? Lizards I'm not sure on, however its these hecteyes that are confusing me

    Where is a good spot to kill Hecteyes with at least semi reliable weather? I need 100 of the for both daggers total.

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